Trialmin Review: lmwevil

[Arianya]

lmwevil has now been in the .txt as a Trial Admin for roughly two months.

Please use this thread as public review; it's encouraged for players to comment on how well/badly the trial admin has done and whether or not they think the trial admin should be made a full admin, if they should be removed from the .txt or if their promotion should be delayed.

[lmwevil]

there is no god, only arianya forcing my review thread when i call her cute

i understand the pain and jaded desires needed to form a game admin now make it stop

[Lazengann]

weird parental incest fetish

[gum disease]

Good squid. Answers ahelps quickly, is quite active from what I've seen, and they're also very nice.

Promote pls.

[Boris]

Keeps bullying me over one tiny mistake i made once and it's mean, apart from that their a good person who should be promoted.

[jcll]

Is a squid. Very good admin. And very good bully of past and current headlines.

[Lazengann]

managed to get ERP banned from adminbus with this nongendered individual's constant flirting

[lmwevil]

managed to get ERP banned from adminbus with his constant flirting

>his

also hi yes daddy memes are the most important meme objectively - also if you think it was just me making the memes then you didn't read chat enough

[BeeSting12]

Singlehandedly managed to get ERP and flirting banned from adminbus. Congrats.

edit- had help from jcll. also was kicked for using the word daddy in voice chat. twice.

[Qbmax32]

Awful at For Honor, died in every single duel we played so it was basically just me vs 2 others. Shameful

















Also a good admin ;;)))))

[lmwevil]

wtf i asked for negative feedback qb not a burn

[Qbmax32]

>plays shugoki
>dies


What did you expect?

[lmwevil]

I JUST WANTED TO HUG PEOPLE OK, STOP BEING MEAN IN MY THREAD, ALL I ASKED WAS NEGATIVE FEEDBACK TO FREE ME FROM THIS MORTAL PLANE

[Qbmax32]

GOOD
ADMIN
PROMOTE
NOW







also








>shugoki

[jcll]

I JUST WANTED TO HUG PEOPLE OK, STOP BEING MEAN IN MY THREAD, ALL I ASKED WAS NEGATIVE FEEDBACK TO FREE ME FROM THIS MORTAL PLANE

Promote Immediately

[Alexch2]

currently has a furry avatar on discord, possible paradise infiltrator/destabilizer
exercise caution if promoting

[Atlanta-Ned]

they know all our secrets. promote.

[CitrusGender]

they do good
really wholesome

promote immediately

[subject217]

Pretty low number of connections during trial for a trialmin, the lowest in months I think. Also brought adminbus to a state where we have a literal ban on lewd shit with the help of jcll.

From what I saw ingame they were pretty decent at adminning, but I didn't see that much. The notes they've made seem to be in order, no problems there except that there just aren't that many of them.

So I guess my point is, seems good except not that active. They also have a very nice Discord avatar. Far more active in adminbus than ingame, likes calling CitrusGender "daddy" constantly and backing whatever jcll is arguing about.

[elyina]

got rid of tako luka pic confirmed worst squid kill post haste
just kidding they are cutest squid and i love them

[Ayy Lemoh]

Pretty low number of connections during trial for a trialmin, the lowest in months I think. Also brought adminbus to a state where we have a literal ban on lewd shit with the help of jcll.

All the other posts seemed like jokes but your post seems serious.

Please tell me there wasn't actual sexual harassment.

[subject217]

No, Jerry. There wasn't. I'm not joking either, but it in no way constituted sexual harassment.

[lmwevil]

it was hardcore shitposting, i consulted with citrus and the meme never bothered him

[Ayy Lemoh]

reply

I'm not asking because big admin conspiracy to take down us noble players if that's why you used the rolling eyes emote.

That's good to hear, though.

[subject217]

Oh by the way lmwevil got 129 connections in 2 months. For comparisons' sake, during my trial I had 463 in the same two month time period. My understanding is that most trialmins would get around 300 ish connections total in this period.

I believe this is relevant because combined with the relative lack of notes in the DB it shows that they have not had a ton of experience adminning compared to most other trialmins. So I would recommend a trial extension for that purpose.

[Qbmax32]

hardcore shitposting is posting a stupid meme or an incredibly cursed image

its not posting a fucking huge 1600x2400 image of two anime girls frenching each other while lying on a bed half naked

like i check discord in class/public sometimes and thats the last thing i need to see. #porn-general was removed from the discord for a reason



EDIT: im big retard this wasnt squid but another admin WHO SQUID IS IN KAHOOTS WITH DO NOT PROMOTE DUE TO THE ASSOCIATION

[lmwevil]

DO NOT PROMOTE DUE TO THE ASSOCIATION

saved by based qb

[Lazengann]

Pretty low number of connections during trial for a trialmin, the lowest in months I think. Also brought adminbus to a state where we have a literal ban on lewd shit with the help of jcll.

All the other posts seemed like jokes but your post seems serious.

Please tell me there wasn't actual sexual harassment.

I wasn't joking, the constant daddy stuff was really obnoxious and weird

[imsxz]

uses a computer better than most squid tend to use computers these days, can talk too which i don't think I've ever seen a squid do before.

that aside, i don't think the lower connections point is very important here, squid isn't inactive and handles tickets while they're online, and consistently handles them well. I've never seen them self antag or go too hard with button mashing either, no reason to not promote tbh.

[CitrusGender]

I was not sexually harassed.

[Kangtut]

I can't say much that I did not already say in their feedback thread. They're a good squid and handle the job well. As for low connectivity - quite a few admins don't connect often. Holding trialmins to some high standard is pointless anyway. Discord crap aside - who cares only admins can see it anyway and they stopped when told to - they should be promoted.

[subject217]

Most admins with low recent connections have been here for quite a while. It is a question of experience, not activity.

[Nabski]

Bans are a mix of entertaining meme bans, escalation related things, and disconnections.
The notes they've given tend to be nicely informative.

I can't think of times I've seen them on, but I'm putting that down to different time zones/connections.
The connection count isn't THAT low, but for how active they are on discord I assumed it would be higher.

There's nothing that stands out as bad, but I think extend would be a good choice until they rack up more time.

[subject217]

The connection count isn't THAT low

It is quite literally the lowest connection count for a trialmin in months several times over. I crunched the numbers on some other random admins and their connection counts during trial are in the 500s. Really, calling 300 a median is quite generous, it's more like a minimum.

[CreationPro]

The connection count isn't THAT low

It is quite literally the lowest connection count for a trialmin in months several times over. I crunched the numbers on some other random admins and their connection counts during trial are in the 500s. Really, calling 300 a median is quite generous, it's more like a minimum.

Do connections equate time spent in-game? What is a connection equal to? 1 hour? 15 minutes? Is it equal across the board?

If I assume a connection is equal to 1 hour, 300 connections is 12.5 days.

[lmwevil]

don't really have much to say on the connection count besides that I only admin when i know i'm in the right headspace for it (along with my limited free time out of work), and that with anything I've ever been unsure with i've never hesitated to ask the other members of the team. there's no reason that really any of those traits would change if i was to reach game admin, additionally to presume that game admins should be ready to deal with any situation is just inaccurate given the amount of higher ranked staff who ask questions in adminbus for help with rulings.

TL;DR comparing my connection count to younger admins with more free time isn't entirely fair (and i've shown that I can do the job fine)

[subject217]

If I assume a connection is equal to 1 hour

Egregiously false assumption.

The median Bagil round is around 50 minutes, last I checked. That is a median, and rounds lower in duration than this are very common. It also doesn't account for logging in/out of servers or logging into multiple servers. If you ever connect during a round you get a connection, doesn't matter how long you've stayed. There was actually a bunch of hooplah about real time tracking a while ago that didn't really amount to much usable data.

At any rate, however long you personally believe they've spent adminning isn't really relevant when it is plainly clear that they've spent a lot less time adminning than pretty much any other trialmin during their trial period.

TL;DR comparing my connection count to younger admins with more free time isn't entirely fair (and i've shown that I can do the job fine)

You haven't really shown that you can do the job fine though when you've simply not spent much time adminning. Lots of people did the job just fine for a short period of time and then issues became present as time went on. Hence, a trial extension.

[Nervere]

It is quite literally the lowest connection count for a trialmin in months several times over. I crunched the numbers on some other random admins and their connection counts during trial are in the 500s. Really, calling 300 a median is quite generous, it's more like a minimum.

This is the stupidest shit I've seen in a while, and it's surprising to see it coming from another admin. We have lives and jobs outside of this game. If 129 connections is the amount she's able to do in her trial period, so be it.
The amount of notes/bans is a bit on the lower side, true, but she a.) hasn't made many bad calls and b.) asks adminbus when unsure. I think it's been shown that lmwevil is capable of being a good admin, I'm in favor of a promotion.

[subject217]

If 129 connections is the amount she's able to do in her trial period, so be it.

The point of the trial period is to evaluate their performance as an admin. A trial extension isn't some horrible shame, especially given the context here.

Ultimately it's your and your fellow headmins' call. If you feel that someone who has made 11 real notes is fully qualified to be a game admin then I'm assigning more value to the title than it is due.

[CreationPro]

If I assume a connection is equal to 1 hour

Egregiously false assumption.

The median Bagil round is around 50 minutes, last I checked.

Spoiler:

It also doesn't account for logging in/out of servers or logging into multiple servers. If you ever connect during a round you get a connection, doesn't matter how long you've stayed.

Which basically means that you could reconnect a thousand times to become the most active admin ever. It wouldn't hurt to have a time tracking system for matters like this, although I don't know how hard it would be to implement.

[subject217]

Which basically means that you could reconnect a thousand times to become the most active admin ever. It wouldn't hurt to have a time tracking system for matters like this, although I don't know how hard it would be to implement.

Actually, you basically get one connection for every round you connect to, if that makes sense. Adminobserver hours are also tracked but the stat isn't actually available anywhere as far as I know and it's far harder to keep records on it over a certain time period compared to connections.

[CreationPro]

Which basically means that you could reconnect a thousand times to become the most active admin ever. It wouldn't hurt to have a time tracking system for matters like this, although I don't know how hard it would be to implement.

Actually, you basically get one connection for every round you connect to, if that makes sense. Adminobserver hours are also tracked but the stat isn't actually available anywhere as far as I know and it's far harder to keep records on it over a certain time period compared to connections.

300 connections, if every round lasts 15 minutes, is 3.125 days.
129 connections, if every round lasts 30 minutes, is 2.68 days.

That's a lot of time, man.

[Qbmax32]

It is quite literally the lowest connection count for a trialmin in months several times over. I crunched the numbers on some other random admins and their connection counts during trial are in the 500s. Really, calling 300 a median is quite generous, it's more like a minimum.

This is the stupidest shit I've seen in a while, and it's surprising to see it coming from another admin. We have lives and jobs outside of this game. If 129 connections is the amount she's able to do in her trial period, so be it.
The amount of notes/bans is a bit on the lower side, true, but she a.) hasn't made many bad calls and b.) asks adminbus when unsure. I think it's been shown that lmwevil is capable of being a good admin, I'm in favor of a promotion.

this pretty much

[MrAlphonzo]

The connection count isn't THAT low

It is quite literally the lowest connection count for a trialmin in months several times over. I crunched the numbers on some other random admins and their connection counts during trial are in the 500s. Really, calling 300 a median is quite generous, it's more like a minimum.

Old man yells at volunteer for not fulfilling vague and unspecified minimum for volunteer hours.

You should appreciate that they're putting what little free time they have into administrating.

Instead, you're just being ungrateful and petty.

[Dax Dupont]

If 129 connections is the amount she's able to do in her trial period, so be it.

The point of the trial period is to evaluate their performance as an admin. A trial extension isn't some horrible shame, especially given the context here.

Ultimately it's your and your fellow headmins' call. If you feel that someone who has made 11 real notes is fully qualified to be a game admin then I'm assigning more value to the title than it is due.

I share subject's opinion, we're not talking about demoting them but you should rack up way more time than this, you don't have to go overboard like I did with like 8 hours a day.

It's an extension, and trials have the exact same responsibilities and power as regular admins. The difference is that becoming a game admin you get cemented in that spot and it takes a lot to get you out.

I get the job aspect, if I had the connection count they and me have now during my trial I would've expected an extension too.

Though the running joke is that trialmin review threads don't matter and the shitposting about irrelevant things seem to more or less confirm that.

[lmwevil]

[snip]
Though the running joke is that trialmin review threads don't matter and the shitposting about irrelevant things seem to more or less confirm that.

Anyone who would have actually snapped, done bad calls or other needlessly improper things for the position would have already done it in two months to be honest. Additionally by only adminning when I know I'm actually in the right headspace in my free time minimizes that further, don't really have much to add.

[Karp]

Not entirely sure they aren't a bot or an actual squid. From their history and responses, a lot of what they say is robot-like, or contradictory. They can reply to your statements with the typical robotic response of an emoji, generally a squid, which is a red flag one way. I'll bring in some evidence to back my point on this.
1)Spoilered for cleanliness and some admin chatlogs

Spoiler:

]

As we can see, they attempt the art of misdirection and misplacement despite alluding to the fact that they may be a squid, their discord name is SquidQueen, and other such concrete and objective facts linking them to squids. Do they hate themselves as a squid, or are they a robot, a squid, or a robot squid? If we can't trust a statement that simple from them, can we trust anything?

2) Their reasoning for their posting and avatar are cute things, yet they provide no concrete on what is cute at times while attempting to stand in as the judicator over what is cute. This is dangerous territory, and marks a hypocritical robot faking emotions or an actual unstable squid. Not fit for adminbus.

3)The mountains of evidence against them on what they did. You've all seen it. I've seen it, you've probably seen it as you've been around. We all know what they did and their scandals. Only an unempathetic robot or a soulless evil cephalopod would do what they did and it's disgusting they haven't been called out on it. Shame on them.




On a more serious note though, the whole connection debacle seems silly as many people don't have the ability or time to be on frequently, but in my opinion the default state on trialmin reviews should lean towards extend more often than not. Why not make them a full admin vs why not examine how they might act later. Part of the trial process is to re-educate or weed out the more unstable elements who would snap or be dreadful in how they act as removing a full admin with tenure is a massive pain in the ass and requires multiple incidents to get removed versus a trial who hasn't really been an admin for a while. From my limited experience lmwevil seems alright from what I've seen but it's important to keep a good eye on someone as they can hide how awful they might be in 6 months or more in behaviour, what they punish, how hard they punish, and how much they could potentially misuse their power or abuse players

Though be careful with chats like that i dunno if anyone told them to cut it out and they didn't listen or if they kept going despite being told that it was getting obnoxious because everyone has different tolerance levels with that but it seems more innocuous, or annoying at worst rather than malicious.

*EDIT* To add, I don't know of any major differences between trial admins and admins in powers. Part of the reason the trial process is much longer now is that trial admins have full verb access while allowing said admin to show their colours over a longer period of time while removing the lengthy process it takes to remove a full admin. They're the same in effectively everything except title and tenure, and players may bully a trial admin more assuming that they don't know what they're talking about.

[lmwevil]

Not entirely sure they aren't a bot or an actual squid. From their history and responses, a lot of what they say is robot-like, or contradictory. They can reply to your statements with the typical robotic response of an emoji, generally a squid, which is a red flag one way. I'll bring in some evidence to back my point on this.
1)Spoilered for cleanliness and some admin chatlogs

Spoiler:

]

As we can see, they attempt the art of misdirection and misplacement despite alluding to the fact that they may be a squid, their discord name is SquidQueen, and other such concrete and objective facts linking them to squids. Do they hate themselves as a squid, or are they a robot, a squid, or a robot squid? If we can't trust a statement that simple from them, can we trust anything?

he knows

2) Their reasoning for their posting and avatar are cute things, yet they provide no concrete on what is cute at times while attempting to stand in as the judicator over what is cute. This is dangerous territory, and marks a hypocritical robot faking emotions or an actual unstable squid. Not fit for adminbus.

You are no longer a cute fish, how dare you imply my ink processors are not perfect.

On a more serious note though [SNIP]

I don't think you're inherently wrong with the statement, but two months is a pretty substantial allotment of time and in the end the bad staff do get rooted out the way of icepacks.

Though be careful with chats like that i dunno if anyone told them to cut it out and they didn't listen or if they kept going despite being told that it was getting obnoxious because everyone has different tolerance levels with that but it seems more innocuous, or annoying at worst rather than malicious.

Daddy memes were banned and once I was told to officially stop I did (barring doing it in voice so beesting could kick me).

and players may bully a trial admin more assuming that they don't know what they're talking about.

Rule 1 bullying is not allowed, hugging and hot chocolate only

[Karp]

On a more serious note though [SNIP]

I don't think you're inherently wrong with the statement, but two months is a pretty substantial allotment of time and in the end the bad staff do get rooted out the way of icepacks.

I'll try to avoid namedropping and calling people out out of respect as quite a few were deadminned and I don't want to be confrontational but it is a genuine uphill battle to deadmin people who get game admin, two months is fine for a lot of people but some are able to hide their shittiness or be tolerable long enough to get away with anything as a game admin.

I would wager that any game admin that has been playing for more than 4-5 months could probably ruin a lot of people's rounds and mishandle ahelps freely until they get caught on a technicality, the same thing happened with icepax. He got deadminned because he spawned himself as an abductor one round, not because of any other action or any mishandled ahelps or anything of that form. As I said, tenure is a genuine pain and makes deadminning people an uphill battle unless everyone in unison agrees to deadmin said person, and even then that can be painful if they create a lot of noise over being deadminned which can result in players siding with them out of impulse despite the other party being a miserable cretin.

Censoring names because i don't want to namedrop either party but a certain trialmin ended up with a weeklong shouting match in adminbus between the headmins on every decision before they were eventually deadminned and they were a player/admin most people didn't like in a similar vein to icepax. I don't think any of this is applicable to you but I'm speaking broadly as to what I feel on time and if people genuinely are concerned about your adminning due to a lack of played hours in combination with other issues that may have been hidden from the thread. But from all I've seen as I said, you seem stable and like a reliable admin and I wouldn't mind supporting you though my hours impair my ability to see how you may act long term.

*edit* lol my brain pee i forgot to say that it's pretty easy to skate by on being decent/semi-palatable until you get fullmin is why i posted all of that

[Arianya]

I can understand subject's concern with connections, since generally speaking an admin's connections go down post trial and not up, but equally we've had admins with healthy connection counts who burn out two weeks after promotion and retire. While I'd love to see lmwevil more, understandably everyone has real lives and we can't all be Lexia "2000 connections in the past 2 months" Black.

Additionally, they cover the Oceanian Time Zone, which is of immense value since it can cover the early American morning/middle of the EU working day, a time period we've had issues with in the past.

I've not had the chance to admin alongside lmwevil much due to that time difference, but the positive feedback from players in this thread is good to see.