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ShadowDimentio · Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:26 am

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HUMANS SUCK LIFE SUCKS EVERYTHINGS SUCKS M-M-MORTYYYY (BELCH)

Rustledjimm · Post by **Rustledjimm** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:37 am #415555

IkeTG wrote:
Rustledjimm wrote:Surprise, surprise the average human is pretty ignorant and as a collective we aren't experts at administering ourselves. There's a reason direct democracy isn't good.
A little faith in humanity goes a long way, friend.

I have faith in humanity. The fact we are here is enough proof to have faith in humanity.

That doesn't mean to say I have faith in direct democracy. Not even Switzerland, the place people point to whenever someone mentions "direct democracy" is nowhere near a true direct democracy. It is a federal republic that occassionally holds referenda on certain legislation.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:35 am #415573

IkeTG wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote:It's ok after the nuclear apocalypse all the city scum will be nuked and the ruralfags will take over
I live in a rural area and everyone here is dumb as shit, explain

You're not worth nuking you stupid hillbilly.

ShadowDimentio · Tue Jun 05, 2018 6:43 am

Malkevin wrote:
IkeTG wrote:
ShadowDimentio wrote:It's ok after the nuclear apocalypse all the city scum will be nuked and the ruralfags will take over
I live in a rural area and everyone here is dumb as shit, explain
You're not worth nuking you stupid hillbilly.

I'm having flashbacks of the Fallout 3 DLC, Point Lookout I think it was where you run around in a swamp shooting at hillbillies with a billion health. The lever action rifles you get there are awesome too.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:59 am #415590

humans are good but people are bad
thanks, we've known that since Erich Kästner

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:06 pm #415646

To be honest I would undermine Human society for a klondike bar

Screemonster · Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:02 pm

Anonmare wrote:To be honest I would undermine Human society for a klondike bar

just dig a burrow under it

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:28 pm #415717

What am I, a Skaven now?

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:50 pm #415722

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:08 pm #415863

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/05/us/miss- ... index.html

""We will no longer judge our candidates on their outward physical appearance. That's huge," she said."

Why even have a beauty contest if you're not judging physical beauty? I'm sure America has plenty of other contests that evaluate different aspects of the human being

Rustledjimm · Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:18 pm

I know politics gets sad and depressing sometimes but can we not bring in a topic even more depressing into this please.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Jun 06, 2018 1:06 am #415904

Hasn't Trump said something completely irrelevant about this yet?
I'm sure the media will focus on that over things like acid bombs in Orlando or whatnot

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:42 pm #415990

Rustledjimm wrote:I know politics gets sad and depressing sometimes but can we not bring in a topic even more depressing into this please.

Oh diddums!
Did someone fall out of the ugly tree and face plant every branch on the way down?

Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:53 pm

Anonmare wrote:To be honest I would undermine Human society for a klondike bar

morally this puts you higher than most people, as most people don't even need a reward to undermine society they just do it because ????

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:59 pm #416072

actually no, morally this puts him lower
he's doing it for a reason, not because he can't help himself

FantasticFwoosh · Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:09 pm

Money and or power usually, sometimes as a form of self protection to the money and power you may already have at the expense of other people.

Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:22 pm

CosmicScientist wrote:Your character being crazy does not exclude you from morality point deductions.

Though that raises a question, is it more evil to do it because you want to do it, to do it because it's evil or to do it for a reward?

Taking a reward requires some kind of restraint, like otherwise you wouldn't go and murder a bunch of kids or something. It's more of a neutral evil as opposed to someone just doing what they feel like doing even if it's bad which is chaotic evil and imo a lot worse.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu Jun 07, 2018 3:30 pm #416309

>chaotic being worse than neutral or lawful
stop this meme

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu Jun 07, 2018 4:29 pm #416331

i'll have you know I'm awful neutral

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:13 am #416560

I know most people here aren't Canadian but

>Provincial election
>Liberal leader was so so so shit everyone in every party hated her
>Conservatives run on the following platform (this is not a joke):
>-cheaper beer and wine, as in like $1 beer (government can't do that as far as I'm aware)
>-"create good jobs"[sic]
>-spend enough to cause a $9.5 billion deficit in one year
>-also slash taxes while doing the above
>majority of province voted against conservatives
>Conservatives win a majority government anyways because FPTP

i want death

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:14 am #416562

"Online violence against women"

Wat
Just use the 'block' function on your social media, because of course it's about that

Just block the shitters that you don't want to see, this is a problem that is entirely their own responsibility to resolve

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:29 am #416606

If Canada is like the UK then their government imposes a tax duty on alcohol, which is what pushes the cost of things up a lot

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:45 am #416622

we were talking about drones, right? And beauty contests allowing only full-covered bodies? What happens when you mix the two?

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you get muslim fashion shows with drones instead of scantily clad models

Rustledjimm · Fri Jun 08, 2018 11:56 am

this is the future

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:03 am #417076

Someone tell the rigger that he shouldn't dress his drones up and that he's doing it wrong

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 7:31 am #417123

The sikh man of europe

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:55 am #417144

Whats the story behind the fox?

Also why can't the sikh wear his turban under the bearskin, or atleast have a massive turban to make his silhouette match the other troops? He'll be the first one picked off in line warfare.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 1:29 pm #417161

a sad story of EU bureaucracy may actually have a good ending

http://www.dw.com/en/hopes-rise-for-pen ... a-44142837

the story in case you missed it:

Penka, a pregnant red cow, crossed into non-EU Serbia from her farm in Bulgaria
Bulgarian officials plan to put Penka down after she crossed back illegally
The cow did not have the correct documentation at the time of the crossing
Penka was given a clean bill of health by Serbian vets but won't be allowed to live

#SAVEPENKA

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:20 pm #417178

Well the article says that the cow's illegal crossing into Serbia was caught on camera by Bulgarian border guards, they would've probably caught her crossing back anyway and stopped her eventually

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Sun Jun 10, 2018 2:39 pm #417185

I guess yes, mass incineration may have been a solution if she had already made it back to the herd. Don't underestimate the EU, regulations are there specifically to prevent livestock from catching dangerous ailments off-europe and bringing them back to the EU. Once she's back with the other cows, it's too late and the whole herd is already exposed to whatever deadly Serbian virus she may have caught over the border.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:22 pm #417616

why don't you guys just disband the house of lords already

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:57 pm #417646

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:34 pm #417663

>glad I'm here putin
this made me kek more than was reasonable

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:31 pm #417686

CosmicScientist wrote:>brexit porn without the chinless man or the clown
Truly the darkest timeline.

Grazyn wrote:why don't you guys just disband the house of lords already
Why would we? It's our upper house.

Who and Who?

I'm guessing the clown is Boris, but chinless politician doesn't really narrow it down.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:31 pm #417687

The cow thing is retarded. ITS A FUCKING COW SEND IT HOME!

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:06 pm #417695

Bulgaria has to comply with EU standards, Serbia does not.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:35 pm #417698

So naturally Bulgaria over-complies out of fear because no one's allowed to even think about bending the rules.

I mean, unless you're the German car industry.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:04 pm #417709

Our nat-populist government had to face their first crisis, and they won.

an NGO ship loaded with 600+ migrants fished off Lybia is directed to Malta by the italian maritime rescue coordination center (MRCC)
Malta says no, fuck off (like they always do)
italian government says the ship will not be authorized to dock in Italy
MRCC puts the ship on hold near Malta
the ship begs to be let through to Italy because it's overcrowded and people are sick
government says no, dispatches supply vessels to bring doctors and resupply the ship
out of nowhere, the newborn Spanish socialist government says they'll take the ship
italian government celebrates its victory
Macron says that what Italy did "makes him vomit"
this is the first time we ever refused entry to an NGO ship, without them going into harbor anyway due to "state of emergency"
if this means that from now on they'll all be redirected elsewhere, this is huge

you can read more about it here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44452760

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:22 pm #417732

It's a nice start to taking care of the mass immigration problem, but since now they'll just go to Spain I expect no real change

Also
If they're overcrowded and people were sick, why didn't they just go back to Libya? Seems they're doing it to themselves there

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:50 pm #417735

XSI wrote:It's a nice start to taking care of the mass immigration problem, but since now they'll just go to Spain I expect no real change

Also
If they're overcrowded and people were sick, why didn't they just go back to Libya? Seems they're doing it to themselves there

Libya isn't considered "safe harbour" by the MRCC because not only they don't guarantee proper medical assistance, but their coast guard may interfere and even block the NGO ship from entering territorial waters. Too much shit to deal with. Tunisia, on the other hand...

FantasticFwoosh · Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:52 pm

XSI wrote:It's a nice start to taking care of the mass immigration problem, but since now they'll just go to Spain I expect no real change

Also
If they're overcrowded and people were sick, why didn't they just go back to Libya? Seems they're doing it to themselves there

How many euro's would you bet that they immediately spread out to France and start a viruelent epidemic of measles across the border, because importing migrants with diseases from 3/2 world countries ramps up the risk locally wherever they are centred without vaccination programmes. In a money tight Spain, they may be inviting more than they can handle if the medical system can't keep on top it.

Also don't lie i just think the Spanish government took them in so they can have better chance at re-election if the unemployment figures get notable fixture of employment from the medditerreanan migrant triangle trade for cheap euro workers from Africa and the ME, while all this Catalonia fracas is going on too as a welcome distraction from the headlines in a hopeful effect like Brexit had of literally never being off the news.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:10 pm #417738

From an Italian POV, the Spanish decision is shocking. Nobody here would ever think that such a thing would be popular or bring votes. Even leftist parties here would never dare to say something like that, they'd consider it nothing short of a political suicide. I guess they don't have migrant problems in Spain?

FantasticFwoosh · Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:20 pm

Yet

(well go figure the migrants aren't drifting towards the poorer members of the EU that are the furthest away when they can camp on Frau Merkels doorstep and recieve full hospitality)

ShadowDimentio · Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:01 am

Spanish Inquisition 2: Electric Boogaloo coming soon to a Spain near yoo

Screemonster · Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:31 am

So can someone clarify why the macaroon wagged his finger and tutted at italy for turning the migrants away and didn't wag his finger and tut at malta for turning them away

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:50 am #417810

Because Italy was in the news and Malta was not

Also >Spain taking them in
They're just going to travel north and apply in Germany/France/Sweden. Of course it's easy for Spain to take them in, they won't have to pay for them or deal with that shit

Also also >Epidemic risk
Thanks to recent mass immigration, diseases we thought to be near extinction in the west like TB have made a comeback, which makes sense because these are literally people from disease-ridden shitholes that are trying to get into countries without any sort of checkups, paperwork or legal process
It is a legitimate safety risk to allow them in, but we can't exactly turn back time to prevent it anymore either. So enjoy your exotic diseases! And doubly so when they bring their local anti-biotic immune bacteria with them

leibniz · Post by **leibniz** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:41 am #417820

its disappointing that france gets to talk shit when they barely got any flak for enabling the calais situation for so long

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:43 am #417821

Screemonster wrote:So can someone clarify why the macaroon wagged his finger and tutted at italy for turning the migrants away and didn't wag his finger and tut at malta for turning them away

Well the issue with Malta basically boils down to two things:
They're really tiny and can't realistically hold a lot of refugees.
They're actually the second EU country for number of refugees weighted on population (first is Sweden). Of course this doesn't say much because the real problem aren't refugees but economic migrants and other illegals which then go on to spread crime and decay throughout the country. Only 1 out of 20 migrants fished off Libya are potential refugees (odds may even be lower) and Italy is so low on the list of countries accepting refugees because well, THOSE WHO COME HERE ARE NOT REFUGEES

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:12 pm #417840

Not just any TB but Super TB that laughs in the face of modern medicine.

I'm just waiting for an outbreak of Ebola

Rustledjimm · Post by **Rustledjimm** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:38 pm #417850

those votes are always done because the MPs believe something is so wrong they disrupt the running of parliament to make a point.

And the SNP MPs are entirely right. Theresa May is being completely unconsitutional in the way powers are being taken by Westminster when they should be in the domain of the Scottish Government as set down in the Scotland Act of 1998. It requires an Act of Parliament, and a vote/debate in Parliament to change an Act of Parliament. Theresa May is attempting to do this with no vote, no debate and no Act.

It is utter disrespect towards the idea of devolution and that Scotland is "equal" in any way.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:06 pm #417859

CosmicScientist wrote:
Though today they said Italy now has another migrant or refugee ship docked in Sicily.

Yes it was a coast guard ship carrying 1000 migrants more or less. The coast guard and Navy rescue migrants as part of joint operations with other navies, what the government did was take a firm stance against NGO operations specifically. NGOs are really shady and there is suspicion they may work with human traffickers who put migrants in a bathtub and tow it just over the line in international waters where the NGO is waiting to pick them up.