somerandomguy wrote:>becoming vegan is a statement to everyone around you
This is indeed true, but probably not favorable.
My mum has gone veggie, my dad is going vegan, I have friends dropping more and more meat, switching egg and milk to alternatives
Some of it is arguing with them, but most of it is setting an example by eating delicious vegan food in front of them, showing them it's possible and easy even for someone who enjoys fancy food as much as I do
What's the point of what you're doing here then? I bet the arguing actually makes them (and by extension people here) much less likely to go vegan.
Wyzack wrote:By doing so as quickly and painlessly as possible after it has lived a life relatively free of hardship. It is all relative of course but I find this to be entirely acceptable. Maybe i am a sociopath.
You're not a sociopath but that raises more questions
how long does it live before you kill it? a few months like now? half a life? until it dies naturally? how does this work practically. is ending it's life in it's adolescence really ethical?
how do you give it a life free of hardship without massive economic/resource/land/water costs?
How do you kill it painlessly?
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
somerandomguy wrote:>becoming vegan is a statement to everyone around you
This is indeed true, but probably not favorable.
My mum has gone veggie, my dad is going vegan, I have friends dropping more and more meat, switching egg and milk to alternatives
Some of it is arguing with them, but most of it is setting an example by eating delicious vegan food in front of them, showing them it's possible and easy even for someone who enjoys fancy food as much as I do
What's the point of what you're doing here then? I bet the arguing actually makes them (and by extension people here) much less likely to go vegan.
It's really impossible to say, but I've found more exposure to vegan arguments makes people more likely to go vegan. If the opposite is true you weren't going to change their mind by not saying anything anyway were you, so no loss.
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
The first point I leave up to the farmer, I don't claim to know the best way to raise beef. As to the second point you really can't. That's why I pay more for it but don't complain
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Wyzack wrote:The first point I leave up to the farmer, I don't claim to know the best way to raise beef. As to the second point you really can't. That's why I pay more for it but don't complain
The farmer has an incentive to kill them earlier, which is not really based on an ethical decision but on profit. Does a short life with a violent death really make the result ethical?
It's not just about what you're willing to pay, it's worse for the environment, more resource intensive and unsustainable on a scale big enough to serve everyone.
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman
also in the other thread I was shitposting but seriously are we really going to advocate that we stop eating animal product because ABUSE when we wear clothes and use objects made by people working in shitty inhumane conditions that are so bad they have to put up suicide nets while getting paid so little "pocket change" sounds like a dreamscape
SpaceInaba wrote:also in the other thread I was shitposting but seriously are we really going to advocate that we stop eating animal product because ABUSE when we wear clothes and use objects made by people working in shitty inhumane conditions that are so bad they have to put up suicide nets while getting paid so little "pocket change" sounds like a dreamscape
There are many atrocities in this world committed under many names. None of them invalidate the other, and tackling one doesn't necessarily mean it's worse than another.
That's true but doesn't really change my opinion on it. It's nicer than the alternative so I'll probably keep doing it. Happy for all the vegans who are of stronger conviction than i
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tusterman11 wrote:Can you stop lying? I just asked you and you are was a piece of shiit on me!!!
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SpaceInaba wrote:also in the other thread I was shitposting but seriously are we really going to advocate that we stop eating animal product because ABUSE when we wear clothes and use objects made by people working in shitty inhumane conditions that are so bad they have to put up suicide nets while getting paid so little "pocket change" sounds like a dreamscape
There are many atrocities in this world committed under many names. None of them invalidate the other, and tackling one doesn't necessarily mean it's worse than another.
somerandomguy wrote:>becoming vegan is a statement to everyone around you
This is indeed true, but probably not favorable.
My mum has gone veggie, my dad is going vegan, I have friends dropping more and more meat, switching egg and milk to alternatives
Some of it is arguing with them, but most of it is setting an example by eating delicious vegan food in front of them, showing them it's possible and easy even for someone who enjoys fancy food as much as I do
What's the point of what you're doing here then? I bet the arguing actually makes them (and by extension people here) much less likely to go vegan.
It's really impossible to say, but I've found more exposure to vegan arguments makes people more likely to go vegan. If the opposite is true you weren't going to change their mind by not saying anything anyway were you, so no loss.
If you argue with someone and they appear obnoxious, that opinion affects their core idea as well. What I'm trying to get at here is that being hostile (as in this thread) is a bad idea, and will cause people who might otherwise switch over to quickly reverse their views.
somerandomguy wrote:
If you argue with someone and they appear obnoxious, that opinion affects their core idea as well. What I'm trying to get at here is that being hostile (as in this thread) is a bad idea, and will cause people who might otherwise switch over to quickly reverse their views.
He's being obnoxious and being like this because we're in the hut pal. Remember, this is hut talk.
somerandomguy wrote:
If you argue with someone and they appear obnoxious, that opinion affects their core idea as well. What I'm trying to get at here is that being hostile (as in this thread) is a bad idea, and will cause people who might otherwise switch over to quickly reverse their views.
He's being obnoxious and being like this because we're in the hut pal. Remember, this is hut talk.
I get not liking vegans preaching at you but every single person who has posted ITT clicked on it after having read the title, so its kinda like that picture of the guy jamming a stick into the spokes of his bicycle and then crying out GOD DAMN VEEEEGAAAAAAAAANS when he falls over
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Like i said, i came here expecting memes like the other thread this is related to.
Saw some veganism debate. "Oh okay, whatever."
Got dissapointed when it went the low tier PETA Route.
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somerandomguy wrote:
If you argue with someone and they appear obnoxious, that opinion affects their core idea as well. What I'm trying to get at here is that being hostile (as in this thread) is a bad idea, and will cause people who might otherwise switch over to quickly reverse their views.
He's being obnoxious and being like this because we're in the hut pal. Remember, this is hut talk.
Good point but come to think of it why is he trying to make a genuine argument in the shitpost zone
Pascal125 wrote:Like i said, i came here expecting memes like the other thread this is related to.
Saw some veganism debate. "Oh okay, whatever."
Got dissapointed when it went the low tier PETA Route.
Yeah fuck having feelings for other things that feel pain getting raised and killed unethically
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Lazengann wrote:Going full vegan is usually bad for your health
evidence?
studies I've seen have shown for cholesterol, cancer, stroke, heart disease and all cause mortality are better for vegans, which are better than vegetarians, which are slightly better than meat eaters
Boris wrote:Sticky is a jackass who has worms where his brain should be, but he also gets exactly what SS13 should be
Super Aggro Crag wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 6:17 pm
Dont engage with sticky he's a subhuman