Midgame antagonists.

[cedarbridge]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Please make swarmers spawn 3 hours into the round they ruin everything a nice calm round becomes instantly lost they move at the speed of fucking light. I swear they used to be a lot slower

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speed = 0

They're not faster. You're just slow.

[Lumbermancer]

>round start revenants
how dumb

[Armhulen]

>round start revenants
how dumb

that's a problem with revenants, not with placing them roundstart. revenants need some love. other side antagonists might need some tweaks but otherwise would work fine.

[Lumbermancer]

>real antagonist attempts to kill me
>survive and get healed
>due to blood loss loose consciousness
>revenant appears and sucks me off

Revenant needs no love, it needs to be removed.

[Armhulen]

Sure, remove, rework, whatever you want. You see that any problem a side antag has wouldn't be magnified by placing it roundstart. it would just make for a more interesting environment of different villains interacting with the station and each other

[Lumbermancer]

It can't interact with revenant, it's invisible.

[Armhulen]

Sure, remove, rework, whatever you want.

[Anonmare]

How about merging some of the low-power side antagonists into their own game mode. Preferably in a random combination so the crew can't ever be totally sure about what they're gonna face or if they're in the game mode or it's a coincidental event.

Though you'd probably need to make some more low-power side antags to get a good diversity going as most of the sides are pretty powerful.

[Lumbermancer]

How about simply removing midgame antagonists, and expanding ghost roles which goal wouldn't be death and destruction, and giving variety and spice to rounds this way?

[onleavedontatme]

There is a pretty healthy overlap between people posting simultaneously posting that they want to remove all conversion modes, that they want to remove mid round antags, and that they want to remove lings.

Not to say those things are perfect but if you want to remove that much of the game it might be time to take a break.

[onleavedontatme]

How about simply removing midgame antagonists, and expanding ghost roles which goal wouldn't be death and destruction, and giving variety and spice to rounds this way?

The exotic new ways to cause death and destruction, or to survive that death and destruction, is the spice and variety for SS13.

[Lumbermancer]

That's the job for normal antags. Side antags are one note, and provide little challenge, just annoyance.

[starmute]

There is a pretty healthy overlap between people posting simultaneously posting that they want to remove all conversion modes, that they want to remove mid round antags, and that they want to remove lings.

Not to say those things are perfect but if you want to remove that much of the game it might be time to take a break.

Double posting aside, if you are saying that I should quit because I dislike a game mode which many people consider unfair, and that I criticize mid-round antagonist isn't fair and seems at face value a elitist argument.

"IE you don't like certain modes therefore you are wrong and should quit the game".

I don't care about conversion modes but... yeah its not right to say things like that... to anyone.

[IkeTG]

Double posting aside, if you are saying that I should quit because I dislike a game mode which many people consider unfair, and that I criticize mid-round antagonist isn't fair and seems at face value a elitist argument.

"IE you don't like certain modes therefore you are wrong and should quit the game".

I don't care about conversion modes but... yeah its not right to say things like that... to anyone.

I think it's more along the lines of if you want to cut out so much of the gamemode content, it's entirely possible that the server just might not be the server for you.

[starmute]

Double posting aside, if you are saying that I should quit because I dislike a game mode which many people consider unfair, and that I criticize mid-round antagonist isn't fair and seems at face value a elitist argument.

"IE you don't like certain modes therefore you are wrong and should quit the game".

I don't care about conversion modes but... yeah its not right to say things like that... to anyone.

I think it's more along the lines of if you want to cut out so much of the gamemode content, it's entirely possible that the server just might not be the server for you.

I see it as more about "You shouldn't criticize or have discussions about game modes or you should quit."

Honestly I don't think there is anything offensive about discussion. It helps and even if you have a bad idea you can bounce it off people and it can become a better idea.

I do not believe that grief ghosts and a mode that most people dislike are "essential" to the game. It's highly likely that most people if given a voice would take changeling out of rotation until it is re-coded.

[somerandomguy]

Please make swarmers spawn 3 hours into the round they ruin everything a nice calm round becomes instantly lost they move at the speed of fucking light. I swear they used to be a lot slower

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speed = 0

They're not faster. You're just slow.

Lower speed var is faster

[cedarbridge]

Please make swarmers spawn 3 hours into the round they ruin everything a nice calm round becomes instantly lost they move at the speed of fucking light. I swear they used to be a lot slower

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speed = 0

They're not faster. You're just slow.

Lower speed var is faster

Default is 0 on carbon species

[Anonmare]

Swarmers used to have PASS_MOB I think but they don't anymore, just PASS_TABLE. They're much easier to handle than they used to be as projectiles would go over them unless you specifically shot them and they didn't move out of the way

[D&B]

Please make swarmers spawn 3 hours into the round they ruin everything a nice calm round becomes instantly lost they move at the speed of fucking light. I swear they used to be a lot slower

A round ender.....

....ending rounds?

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