[optimumtact] - lord saladin - got singled out
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[optimumtact] - lord saladin - got singled out
Post Content:so some admin was on at this time on bagil.
Byond account and character name: lordsaladin/aurora allen
Banning admin :optimumtact
Ban type (What are you banned from?): servers
Ban reason and length: beating a fucking clown.
Time ban was placed (including time zone):10:47am BST
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): all.
Your side of the story: Ok so I was minding my own business Then suddenly comms went mad over a clown, seeing that there were syndie cakes and a power sink i decided to incapacitate him,I found him on the floor sent him in to critical then some person started attacking him with a lit welder and dragged him to hop's door then the clown ahelps me and not the other guy, the clown died while we were searching him.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I don't think the admin read the logs that another person was also attacking him and I fell like the clown specifically ahelped me, plus i need a clean record to be an actual terry main admin (i was on bagil due to terry being dead over the weekend and currently as of posting around 3 players being on terry).
Byond account and character name: lordsaladin/aurora allen
Banning admin :optimumtact
Ban type (What are you banned from?): servers
Ban reason and length: beating a fucking clown.
Time ban was placed (including time zone):10:47am BST
Server you were playing when banned (Sybil or Bagil): all.
Your side of the story: Ok so I was minding my own business Then suddenly comms went mad over a clown, seeing that there were syndie cakes and a power sink i decided to incapacitate him,I found him on the floor sent him in to critical then some person started attacking him with a lit welder and dragged him to hop's door then the clown ahelps me and not the other guy, the clown died while we were searching him.
Why you think you should be unbanned: I don't think the admin read the logs that another person was also attacking him and I fell like the clown specifically ahelped me, plus i need a clean record to be an actual terry main admin (i was on bagil due to terry being dead over the weekend and currently as of posting around 3 players being on terry).
- oranges
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Re: [optimuintact] - lord saladin - got singled out
The other person got a note, they had no previous history, and the clown ahelped you both.
You however have a recent previous note for killing the clown, so I suspect it's a pattern for you and that's why you collected this ban.
I'm not lifting this but a headmin can feel free to overrule me if they feel it's necessary.
Given your background and player profile we have on you I would recommend you pull your head in and try to improve your play style, otherwise you're going to keep being "singled out".
You however have a recent previous note for killing the clown, so I suspect it's a pattern for you and that's why you collected this ban.
I'm not lifting this but a headmin can feel free to overrule me if they feel it's necessary.
Given your background and player profile we have on you I would recommend you pull your head in and try to improve your play style, otherwise you're going to keep being "singled out".
- Erik489
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Re: [optimuintact] - lord saladin - got singled out
I was the clown that round, Count Honkula.
Bartender made a syndicate bomb drink and I decided to pull the classic prank of placing the drink outside the brig, then crying wolf. A few people came, laughed, called me names, the usual. Taylor came by and tried disarming me, to which I slipped him on soap. He then continued after multiple attempts and slips to push me down. The fire alarms went off and the fire locks shut. I was trapped for the time being, and Taylor pulled out a weapon and started hitting me. I call it out over comms, no one but the CMO and chaplain tried to save me. I was near the bar, at which time Aurora walked by, seen me slip Taylor who has been hitting me with a lit lighter, and then i was handcuffed while in crit. Taylor got up and continued his beat down after dragging me away from aurora. I died shortly after at the HOP office, and ahelped it.
In my view, aurora thought I was a traitor due to me hacking the Getmore Chocolate machine and releasing the syndi-cakes, and it’s kinda mob mentality to get a few free hits on the clown if someone is going to town on him. The bomb prank didn’t help my case since it was a traitor round.
Bartender made a syndicate bomb drink and I decided to pull the classic prank of placing the drink outside the brig, then crying wolf. A few people came, laughed, called me names, the usual. Taylor came by and tried disarming me, to which I slipped him on soap. He then continued after multiple attempts and slips to push me down. The fire alarms went off and the fire locks shut. I was trapped for the time being, and Taylor pulled out a weapon and started hitting me. I call it out over comms, no one but the CMO and chaplain tried to save me. I was near the bar, at which time Aurora walked by, seen me slip Taylor who has been hitting me with a lit lighter, and then i was handcuffed while in crit. Taylor got up and continued his beat down after dragging me away from aurora. I died shortly after at the HOP office, and ahelped it.
In my view, aurora thought I was a traitor due to me hacking the Getmore Chocolate machine and releasing the syndi-cakes, and it’s kinda mob mentality to get a few free hits on the clown if someone is going to town on him. The bomb prank didn’t help my case since it was a traitor round.
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Re: [optimuintact] - lord saladin - got singled out
Hop did not decide to strip then take to medbay for healing, i'm sorry.
- Erik489
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Re: [optimuintact] - lord saladin - got singled out
The HOP was confused on why the clown was lynched. I couldn’t be cloned since the power sink knocked out medbay’s power. A medical doctor dragged my body to botany and tried to put me into a replica pod. I wasn’t podded so I don’t know what happened to the doctor, the pod died and my body was outside genetics for some time before the shuttle left.Auora Allen wrote:Hop did not decide to strip then take to medbay for healing, i'm sorry.
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Re: [optimuintact] - lord saladin - got singled out
I'm a bit confused here. This person comes to the brig after hearing that the clown reported a bomb and sees the clown slipping someone while punching someone else all while after they saw them hacking a machine.
This ahelp log seems very brief too.
[10:08:13]ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Optimumtact/(Platos Syrup)->Lord Saladin/(Auora Allen): Why did you beat the clown to death
[10:09:05]ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Lord Saladin/(Auora Allen)->Optimumtact/(Platos Syrup): just responed to comms forgot that there was a cocktail called that
[10:09:45]ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Optimumtact/(Platos Syrup)->Lord Saladin/(Auora Allen): What exactly did they say that got you so fired up?
[10:10:49]ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Lord Saladin/(Auora Allen)->Optimumtact/(Platos Syrup): ai vox announcement and people yelling syndie bomb outside of brig
(then Saladin is banned)
I understand there is a history behind these actions, but this is a not so cut and dry case.
I feel like there's a lot of stuff we don't know about this case and this appeal hasn't helped me understand the situation that much.
This ahelp log seems very brief too.
[10:08:13]ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Optimumtact/(Platos Syrup)->Lord Saladin/(Auora Allen): Why did you beat the clown to death
[10:09:05]ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Lord Saladin/(Auora Allen)->Optimumtact/(Platos Syrup): just responed to comms forgot that there was a cocktail called that
[10:09:45]ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Optimumtact/(Platos Syrup)->Lord Saladin/(Auora Allen): What exactly did they say that got you so fired up?
[10:10:49]ADMINPRIVATE: PM: Lord Saladin/(Auora Allen)->Optimumtact/(Platos Syrup): ai vox announcement and people yelling syndie bomb outside of brig
(then Saladin is banned)
I understand there is a history behind these actions, but this is a not so cut and dry case.
Also I would appreciate if you could elaborate on this a little bit so we can understand what you heard before you came to the conclusion that you should beat the clown to death.Auora Allen wrote:Then suddenly comms went mad over a clown
I feel like there's a lot of stuff we don't know about this case and this appeal hasn't helped me understand the situation that much.
- Arianya
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Re: [optimuintact] - lord saladin - got singled out
Relevant logs: https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/bas ... und-86314/
Game log:
Trimmed for relevancy:
Attack logs:
Trimmed for relevancy:
Game log:
Spoiler:
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Spoiler:
- Arianya
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Re: [optimuintact] - lord saladin - got singled out
Because I was bored, I also combined the game log and attack log to give a easier flow of what happened:
Combined trimmed game and attack log:
e: I missed a couple of relevant slips, see below quoted by themselves, which happen after the bomb call, I don't think they alter the context of what was happening but including them for completion's sake, and edited them into the "combined" log above:
Combined trimmed game and attack log:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
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Re: [optimuintact] - lord saladin - got singled out
Killing the clown for literally making a joke which is kinda their job is extremely excessive.
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Re: [optimumtact] - lord saladin - got singled out
Saladin told me to lock this thread and the ban is basically over so I suppose it doesn't matter.
This can be unlocked by request, but it looks like this is done.
This can be unlocked by request, but it looks like this is done.
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