Simple Questions Thread

[Professor Hangar]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Back on goonstation the mint would function as intended, I think it got broken somewhere along the way.

Being fat was more its own thing back then, with its own sprites and being able to swallow monkeys whole.

[MimicFaux]

All useful to know. I want to use the mint as part of a traitor clown gimmick. Slip, cuff, feed bananas until fat, mint.

I have a question with regards to cargo and tech disks. If a tier 3 disk is sold off, and then a tier 4 disk of the same tech is sold; is it true that you won't make as much money as selling only the tier 4?

I've gone to science, asking for tech disks and they insist on maxing the disks first. And while playing science I try to insist the same but get told that it doesn't matter. How does the costs of tech disks change?

[DiamondSentinel]

All useful to know. I want to use the mint as part of a traitor clown gimmick. Slip, cuff, feed bananas until fat, mint.

I have a question with regards to cargo and tech disks. If a tier 3 disk is sold off, and then a tier 4 disk of the same tech is sold; is it true that you won't make as much money as selling only the tier 4?

I've gone to science, asking for tech disks and they insist on maxing the disks first. And while playing science I try to insist the same but get told that it doesn't matter. How does the costs of tech disks change?

So, don't quote me on this, but if I remember correctly, each level has its own value (I don't know that) and then some techs have multipliers. Plasma has x2, Bluespace x3, I believe, and then illegal and alien has x4. There's almost undoubtedly more, but I just remember that Bluespace is the best one to sell without illegals or alien

[XDTM]

Basically you sell the research levels themselves, if you already sold T4 you only get money for T5 onwards. So might as well max them first to save time.

[AnonymousNow]

Basically you sell the research levels themselves, if you already sold T4 you only get money for T5 onwards. So might as well max them first to save time.

How much would a maxed (as of a normal round) quantum disk net us?

[PKPenguin321]

How does the thin mint work? I used to be able to gib with it but no longer.

Common misunderstanding. The difference between overeating and actually becoming fat is pretty big, but without fat sprites it's hard to notice. I believe the FAT disability causes the "he seems quite chubby" message to appear in examine. It allows you to devour monkeys and (I haven't actually tested this but it's supposedly something that was used a lot way back when) prevents you from being choked (your neck is too thick). The mint only works when the disability is present, not when the victim has just overeaten.

Awesome thing I did once was as a CMO traitor: I released a weight gain virus then stole the mint, ground it, and loaded cryo with the mint toxin when a fat patient came along.

[MimicFaux]

Basically you sell the research levels themselves, if you already sold T4 you only get money for T5 onwards. So might as well max them first to save time.

See that's the thing though; if I'm trying to order _____ through cargo, and they don't have the money, I'll go to science for tech disks. The trouble is they won't release any disks unless they have maxed out research. (Lets say, they have tier five across the board), and cite a convoluted answer about the disks not being culimimative.

Tier 7 >= Tier 5 + (Tier 7 - Tier 5)

And the one time I tried to disprove it as a scientist (science!) cargo wouldn't accept disks that weren't maxed. Seems like such a strange thing I wanted straight answer.

[XDTM]

Oh you were correct there. No difference between t5 + t7 and just t7, so if you need the boost sell the t5 and do the rest later. Also what kind of scientist thinks they can get t7 consistently?

[MimicFaux]

The same ones that screech that they should be the only ones allowed to do xenobio.

[FantasticFwoosh]

Im feeling too lazy to look through the github code, what differentiates eggplant (mutated version) eggs from regular chicken eggs?

[PKPenguin321]

My guess is nothing

[MimicFaux]

One can be infused with all sorts of botany shenanigans.

[FantasticFwoosh]

Then what fertilises chicken eggs? Unless i need to change the type to the more nautral one, unless we could suffice a feature that injecting eggs with nutriment fertilises them.

So indeed there literally IS a chicken inside the eggplant.

[tacolizard]

How viable are narcotic smoke grenades? As a tool of murder and as a tool of griff

extremely viable, as many narcotics turn into debilitating stuns when overdosed. meth/morphine grenades can easily kill

[CPTANT]

When would you ever want to use a passive gate over a volume pump or gas pump?

[DiamondSentinel]

When would you ever want to use a passive gate over a volume pump or gas pump?

So, a gas pump is reliant on pressure, and can fill up a tank to a certain amount, but aren't useful for moving mass quantities from one to another.
Volume pumps work very quickly, but have are a bit finicky (sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. I've yet to do serious testing on how they work, I just know that they're good for moving a lot of gas quickly). I would assume that they work better at higher pressures, as higher pressures with the same volume moves more mol, but don't quote me there.
Passive gates, for starters, don't require power to be turned on and off. It's essentially a manual valve that only allows flow in one direction.

Again, don't quote me on this because I haven't actually done any code diving, this is just observations from my testing.

Edit: I also forgot something that's way more useful than the power/no power thing, and this applies to digital valves verses manual valves.

The AI can't engage manual valves and passive gates. That's the most important part of them. Anything that does not use power can't be utilized by an AI without a borg's help, so if you have an issue with a rogue AI, go off-grid as much as possible.

[Screemonster]

When would you ever want to use a passive gate over a volume pump or gas pump?

iirc, passive gates have a near-instant flow rate as long as they're flowing from high to low pressure (similar to opening a valve), so if you're wanting to, say, use a pump to charge an air reservoir, you could then use a passive gate to connect said reservoir to distro to dump the contents the moment there's a pressure drop.

[Hulkamania]

I've heard of admin notes on players, can you read your own if you have any or are they only accessible by admins?

[Armhulen]

I've heard of admin notes on players, can you read your own if you have any or are they only accessible by admins?

some are, some aren't. ooc tab > view admin remarks

[existence_success]

If you don't set your clown/mime/etc. name on the character page can you set it at the start of the round?

[TribeOfBeavers]

If you don't set your clown/mime/etc. name on the character page can you set it at the start of the round?

You'll have one of the default clown or mime names on the character setup page if you don't set it yourself, and I'm pretty sure you can't leave it blank. So no.

Although you could ask an admin to change it for you or something I suppose.

[rumblystubble]

When would you ever want to use a passive gate over a volume pump or gas pump?

So, a gas pump is reliant on pressure, and can fill up a tank to a certain amount, but aren't useful for moving mass quantities from one to another.
Volume pumps work very quickly, but have are a bit finicky (sometimes they work and sometimes they don't. I've yet to do serious testing on how they work, I just know that they're good for moving a lot of gas quickly). I would assume that they work better at higher pressures, as higher pressures with the same volume moves more mol, but don't quote me there.
Passive gates, for starters, don't require power to be turned on and off. It's essentially a manual valve that only allows flow in one direction.

Again, don't quote me on this because I haven't actually done any code diving, this is just observations from my testing.

Edit: I also forgot something that's way more useful than the power/no power thing, and this applies to digital valves verses manual valves.

The AI can't engage manual valves and passive gates. That's the most important part of them. Anything that does not use power can't be utilized by an AI without a borg's help, so if you have an issue with a rogue AI, go off-grid as much as possible.

I'm not sure about passive gates, but I know that one benefit of volume pumps you didn't state is that they don't leave trace amounts of gas when you use them to empty something.

[AnonymousNow]

Where's our megafauna kill leaderboard?

[PKPenguin321]

Where's our megafauna kill leaderboard?

http://www.byond.com/games/TgstationHub ... tab=scores

This should really be added to the wiki or the homepage or something

[AnonymousNow]

Where's our megafauna kill leaderboard?

http://www.byond.com/games/TgstationHub ... tab=scores

This should really be added to the wiki or the homepage or something

Thanks.

As reminded in a recent round, are lightgeists in the gold slime friendly critter pool? And if not, why not?

[MimicFaux]

Are those stats only marked on one server? It's not showing any of my legion takedowns.

[AnonymousNow]

I think I may already know the answer to this, but - why don't we have Wrath and Lust ruins?

[Screemonster]

I think I may already know the answer to this, but - why don't we have Wrath and Lust ruins?

they're called yog and citadel

[MimicFaux]

and truly, those places are ruins.

[Hulkamania]

I think I may already know the answer to this, but - why don't we have Wrath and Lust ruins?

Well I know that lust was changed to basically apathy for the devil gamemode because lust had ERP connotations to it. As for wrath, maybe people couldn't come up with an item that didn't involve murderboning? (Not that it stopped them with sloth)

[Grazyn]

There is a Lust ruin, it's the ash walkers' den

[Dr_bee]

I think I may already know the answer to this, but - why don't we have Wrath and Lust ruins?

Well I know that lust was changed to basically apathy for the devil gamemode because lust had ERP connotations to it. As for wrath, maybe people couldn't come up with an item that didn't involve murderboning? (Not that it stopped them with sloth)

What about a

LUST FOR REVENGE!

IM NUCLEAR!

[DemonFiren]

There is a Lust ruin, it's the ash walkers' den

Ashwalkers reproduce asexually, nothing could be less lusty.

[MimicFaux]

Ash Walkers have special lungs, right? I can graft their lungs into myself for that vacation day on Lavaland I've always wanted? Nothing but beach shorts.

[Anonmare]

The opposite actually, Ashwalkers are special because they don't have lungs. They don't need to breathe and only take oxy damage when in crit.

[MimicFaux]

Dwarves are magma proof?!

[Anonmare]

It used to be that the damage magma inflicted was that it boiled the fat inside a dorf's body and scalded him from the inside out. Without it, it didn't actually do a whole lot

[Screemonster]

Can you put an armed mousetrap in your pockets to catch pickpocketers, and if not why not?

[Screemonster]

I just want to fill every container on my person including my pockets with mousetraps when security are getting search-happy, is all.

I remember when I had nothing but mousetraps in my bag once as a clown and they just kept on sticking their hands in it was funny as fuck.

[RandomMarine]

Don't you (and everyone within eyesight) get told if someone's trying to empty your pockets, unlike stuffing bits and bobs into empty pockets?

Not at all. Pickpocketing is a completely invisible action if successful. And failed attempts only alert the victim that their pockets were being fumbled with, no information on the culprit is given.

Though anyone could still notice the item appearing on the floor as well as whoever swipes it.

[MimicFaux]

Plaaans forming.

Plans are forming, palms are sweaty; Goofball's spaghetti.

[Anonmare]

Put a beaker bomb in someone's pants and detonate it before they realise it's their for banter

[InsaneHyena]

If I surround my maxcap with glass shards/glass windows, will it make the explosion deadlier?

[FantasticFwoosh]

lay out rods instead for your improvised shrapnel bombs, gibtonite is good for this also as a cheap explosive which won't go through the floor.

[CPTANT]

If I surround my maxcap with glass shards/glass windows, will it make the explosion deadlier?

Yes. Shards and rods get blown away by explosions and impale people. This stacks indefinitely with the amount of shrapnel up to the point of instant death.

Yes I have executed people this way.

[Hulkamania]

Really dumb question, how does the AI talk in big text as the heads do with a megaphone?

For that matter where the hell is the captain's megaphone, I can't seem to locate it anywhere in his office.

[Nabski]

You can toggle high volume on all the heads headsets the same way you turn your thing on after an emp. Not sure about the AI.

[Anonmare]

Really dumb question, how does the AI talk in big text as the heads do with a megaphone?

For that matter where the hell is the captain's megaphone, I can't seem to locate it anywhere in his office.

Go to the AI Commands tab (the area with the OOC, IC, Preferences are) and go to subspace transceiver, there'll be an option to flick the high-volume on and off, as well as enable and disable various departmental channels for yourself and change the default talk radio frequency, if you wanted to change it for whatever reason.

[Anonmare]

As a side note: cyborgs have a dual-mode radio system. By default, it's set to station-bounced but if they get an encryption key, then they have to switch it to subspace transmission.

Subspace transmission is basically headset mode while disabling it is bounced radio mode.

[MimicFaux]

Is it at all possible, to re pressurize a room with a chem-dispenser and throwing beakers of oxygen around?

[FantasticFwoosh]

You'd need to do bluespace beakers to have a effective amount 300 full on each floor tile space approximately with absolutely no leaks and proper & maintained atmos air locks/circulation.

We really need more effective ways to do that given we can't expect, i suggest spraying the air out with a janitor nozzle esque thing or mixing oxygen smoke grenade.

Q: Does oxygen smoke have any effect for spreading air? or is it just the smoke itself that can be breathed in?