Minor Suggestions

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:03 am #268352

Bottom post of the previous page:

Jacough wrote:
Luke Cox wrote:Give perma an emergency internals box. The window gets breached constantly.
Fuck em, tell the criminal scum to hold their breath while they're in the rec area. They're just going to rot in there anyway.

Eh, if I dump them in perma it's because I like them enough to not kill them, or I'm not 100% sure they're guilty

Lombardo2 · Post by **Lombardo2** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:36 pm #268468

Pets should be able to wear internals. Do they suffer from oxygen deprivation or toxins damage? There has been a tendency to fill the station vent with plasma and that pretty much is death for Ian

Gun Hog · Post by **Gun Hog** » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:01 pm #268510

Lombardo2 wrote:Pets should be able to wear internals. Do they suffer from oxygen deprivation or toxins damage? There has been a tendency to fill the station vent with plasma and that pretty much is death for Ian

Try giving Ian a mask and putting a large air tank on his back!

JJRcop · Post by **JJRcop** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:27 am #268869

Be able to rip up your undershirt/underwear to make gauze.

Onule · Post by **Onule** » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:56 pm #269096

Make derelict drones not blowable unless they're on the station's z-level. Maybe apply that to all drones?
Would also be dope if they had some way to viewing the station's structural data like the blueprints, for fixing bomb repairs. No option for changing anything tho, just viewing.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:05 am #269474

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNUNx319UCM

Add an excerpt from this as a round end sound

WHY CRUNCHAIN IT?

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:41 am #270365

Cowboy hat
COWBOY HAT
COW BOY HAT
COW BOY HAT
(Also known as the ten gallon hat)
Activities in which a cow boy hat will improve
Riding borgs
Passing whisky
Having shoot outs with security
Saying "yee haw!"
Beating up city slickers
Shooting ass walkers
Building campfires
Twirling mustaches

Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:21 am

calzilla1 wrote:Cowboy hat
COWBOY HAT
COW BOY HAT
COW BOY HAT
(Also known as the ten gallon hat)
Activities in which a cow boy hat will improve
Riding borgs
Passing whisky
Having shoot outs with security
Saying "yee haw!"
Beating up city slickers
Shooting ass walkers
Building campfires
Twirling mustaches

Yes this please

FantasticFwoosh · Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:27 am

What in tarnation!

- Cowboy hat has a sec hailer/ Cowboy's up your voice.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:32 pm #270734

Make firelocks buildable with an RCD.

Also add an RCD that explicitly makes wallmountings. As an engineer, it's really time-consuming to make light frames, air alarms, fire alarms, APCs, cameras and so on. I don't mind if it's inefficient, just that it isn't as time consuming to do it all the manual way. Maybe make it a premium engi-vend item that requires a coin?

Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:13 am

Make wizard apprentices inheret any objectives their master has in addition to the "protect your master" objective

Just saw a wizard apprentice get another wizard apprentice, the second layer apprentice ended up killing the original wizard and it was technically valid

Screemonster · Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:48 am

"technically valid" sounds like shorthand for "being a dick".

Tokiko2 · Post by **Tokiko2** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:20 am #271348

Would be great if ghosts had some way to check atmos stats on tiles. So you can see how/why engineering is breaking the engine again or how cold that freon filled holodeck really is.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:58 pm #271550

PKPenguin321 wrote:Make wizard apprentices inheret any objectives their master has in addition to the "protect your master" objective

Just saw a wizard apprentice get another wizard apprentice, the second layer apprentice ended up killing the original wizard and it was technically valid

Feature.

Upstart young apprentices killing older, wiser wizards is a tradition of the Wizard Federation's Unseen University.

Post by **Armhulen** » Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:02 pm #271552

Anonmare wrote:
PKPenguin321 wrote:Make wizard apprentices inheret any objectives their master has in addition to the "protect your master" objective

Just saw a wizard apprentice get another wizard apprentice, the second layer apprentice ended up killing the original wizard and it was technically valid
Feature.

Upstart young apprentices killing older, wiser wizards is a tradition of the Wizard Federation's Unseen University.

PALPATINE: He became so powerful . . . the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. (smiles) Plagueis never saw it coming. It's ironic he could save others from death, but not himself.

One Seven One · Thu Mar 23, 2017 9:44 pm

You know the syndicate chemical ops ruin?
What if we gave them the ability to sell their chemical creations to agents for TCs?
Sell off bundles of gas grenades or a few large beakers of Thermite.

Also give them a chem dispenser just for traitor toxins.

Edit: They could even be under their own 'Local' tab to at least signify that there's a base active.
Just so a traitor doesn't buy up all their stuff early on only to realize they could have bought some chems from their local agents.

Post by **Armhulen** » Thu Mar 23, 2017 10:20 pm #272161

Let lavaland syndies add their viruses and chemicals to the syndicate uplink with a pricetag YES

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 12:10 pm #272375

1 TC bundle of hellchem airborne deathplagues please.

Post by **Armhulen** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:51 pm #272451

Reece wrote:1 TC bundle of hellchem airborne deathplagues please.

Obviously there has to be a tax for how many items sent

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:55 pm #272453

Armhulen wrote:
Reece wrote:1 TC bundle of hellchem airborne deathplagues please.
Obviously there has to be a tax for how many items sent

Make it so tc gives perks (more chems to their machine, more stuff to make viruses, weapons n' shit) you wouldnt eant to sell your insta death needles for 1 tc then

FantasticFwoosh · Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:32 pm

What does the syndie lab get out of it for co-operation, and couldn't it justify more syndie pop up ruins? (Syndie Cyborg/Mech construction facility)

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 5:36 pm #272509

FantasticFwoosh wrote:What does the syndie lab get out of it for co-operation, and couldn't it justify more syndie pop up ruins? (Syndie Cyborg/Mech construction facility)

1 tc for ammo
2 for ammo variations (bleeding, toxic, ect)
5-40 for different weapons
10 for small upgrades
20 for large upgrades/new rooms
50 for full nuke ops promotion

Post by **Armhulen** » Fri Mar 24, 2017 6:27 pm #272566

how much for permission to leave

and actually building on that, if a traitor meets the lavaops the lavaops should be able to leave with the traitor.

AnonymousNow · Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:21 pm

Make it so that any random piece of bric-a-brac found in maintenance, storage rooms or similar has a ridiculously low random chance to be the equivalent traitor item.

For example, timers look exactly like chameleon projectors look exactly like timers. Make it so that timers are, occasionally, replaced with chameleon projectors.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:03 am #272784

1% chance, like igloves in yellow toolboxes?

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:28 pm #272905

Port gmod to byond.

AnonymousNow · Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:45 pm

DemonFiren wrote:1% chance, like igloves in yellow toolboxes?

Something low enough so that only the most autistic types will systematically carve their way through maintenance every round, because it so rarely yields anything, but high enough so that hilarious miracles can happen.

Probably best to compile a list. Chameleon projectors look like timers. Bomb beacons look like tracking beacons. Parapens and pen uplinks (empty? Two TCs?) look like... pens. Non-slip chameleon shoes and jumpsuits look like regular shoes and jumpsuits. So on and so forth.

Post by **Togopal** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:53 pm #272945

AnonymousNow wrote: Probably best to compile a list. Chameleon projectors look like timers. Bomb beacons look like tracking beacons. Parapens and pen uplinks (empty? Two TCs?) look like... pens. Non-slip chameleon shoes and jumpsuits look like regular shoes and jumpsuits. So on and so forth.

I dont think giving greyshits and janitors a chance to find a bomb is a good idea, even if its a rare chance

One Seven One · Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:56 pm

calzilla1 wrote:
FantasticFwoosh wrote:What does the syndie lab get out of it for co-operation, and couldn't it justify more syndie pop up ruins? (Syndie Cyborg/Mech construction facility)
1 tc for ammo
2 for ammo variations (bleeding, toxic, ect)
5-40 for different weapons
10 for small upgrades
20 for large upgrades/new rooms
50 for full nuke ops promotion

15 -One of those four chemical big bombs that you can sell a traitor a beacon too
25 -That zombie virus
30 -A bridge for leaving the base or letting someone enter the base
70 - 'Scrubber backpressure surge' event nut instead of it being random chems it's whatever you want
100 -Fungal Tuberculosis grenade

Maybe the items would have prices base off how many chems are in the grenade/syringe or set prices depending on how lethal they are?
That second one would be a bit hard to put a price too though.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:47 pm #273024

AnonymousNow wrote:Make it so that any random piece of bric-a-brac found in maintenance, storage rooms or similar has a ridiculously low random chance to be the equivalent traitor item.

For example, timers look exactly like chameleon projectors look exactly like timers. Make it so that timers are, occasionally, replaced with chameleon projectors.

When mining was on he asteroid, you could find chameleon jumpsuits from abandoned crates and I think no-slips too.

I also remember being able to find transparent PDAs from the poster advertisements as well

FantasticFwoosh · Sat Mar 25, 2017 7:56 pm

Scanning a poster with your PDA should issue a advertisement, sort of like those barcode scanning things we have with smartphones.

Fiz Bump · Post by **Fiz Bump** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:01 pm #273316

It would be cool if there was a way to get smoke from chem reactions into the atmos system. Like, you cab scrub it out of a room or send it into other areas by modifying an atmos loop.
Not sure how this could be done without a bunch of tedious atmos coding though.

FantasticFwoosh · Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:09 pm

Why not alter the scrubber to smoke'ify the reagents? A particle dispenser or something.

Fiz Bump · Post by **Fiz Bump** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:10 pm #273322

Oh, and in response to the syndie base trading, you could just add a unique fulton beacon to the uplink for a hefty price tag and have it linked to a bunch of fulton packs on the lavaland base.
That way the syndies on base could send whatever they want to the syndie station-side. You could easily balance it by only giving the syndie base a limited number of fulton packs and by making the station-side fulton beacon cost 18 TCs. This way, it would be a gamble for the traitor on whether or not the syndie base players were competent enough to make it worth his TCs.

Slignerd · Post by **Slignerd** » Sun Mar 26, 2017 4:22 pm #273334

Well I mean, whatever scientists can cook up isn't really that strong and could be much cheaper.

Was about to suggest that it shouldn't cost as much, then I realized that there's still sniper rifles and the self-destruct.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:54 pm #274018

Allow the making of Access-restricted lockers by adding airlock electronics to a normal locker. Adding a blank ID card allows you to make it a personal-owned locker.

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 1:56 am #274054

Remove the random bundle weighting

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Mar 29, 2017 5:29 pm #274211

One small thing Bay had that I don't think we do: backpack welding tanks for engineering and atmos.
They have less capacity than their bigger counterparts and you really don't wanna stick a lit welder in there, but they do seem useful for major construction autism.

You should probably blow up in a high-temperature environment or after taking sufficient burn damage, though.

Jacough · Post by **Jacough** » Fri Mar 31, 2017 11:33 pm #275033

Garrote wire:
A very thin hard to see piece of wire that can be placed up to two tiles. Anyone who runs into it takes heavy brute damage and gets knocked down but walking lets you duck under it. Takes a few seconds to set up and you can use wire cutters to cut it.

confused rock · Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:20 am

thats a fucking incredibly shitty suggestion fam just place 2 in a row in a hallway and acquire esword thatd be like the uranium walls thing but invisible

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:01 pm #276556

Tripwire:
Requires two metal rods and 30 lengths of cable.

Click it on a wall to place the first rod down and then click on another wall opposite it within 5 tiles to place the second rod down. Anyone running, but not walking, over the wire will be knocked over and will be forced to throw whatever they're holding as hard as they can directly in front of them. Knockdown from a trip wire lasts only but a second. Cablecutters removes and returns the wire and rods.

Qbopper · Post by **Qbopper** » Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:56 pm #276705

this is a much more reasonable version

though I like the idea of a more dangerous traitor version

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:41 pm #278102

You should be able to dig a hole in asteroid/lavaland turf tiles and be able to bury items and people by placing sand/ash in the hole. Burying people will leave a raised patch of dirt, add some wood to make a cross.

Bury your dead compatriots, hide evidence and even hide yourself in the ground. Burying yourself will somewhat reduce damage from ash storms but only enough for you to just manage to survive from full health.

Kyrah Abattoir · Tue Apr 11, 2017 1:18 pm

Racks should prevent items from being moved around by pressure differences.

Yakumo_Chen · Post by **Yakumo_Chen** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 5:05 am #279743

EMP proof upgrade for traitor AI APCs (or the sat and all machines on it in general). I'm tired of being GG NO RE from space with only two EMP grenades or an implant. You don't even have to hack in and fight the turrets, grenades just kill you every time, and drains all your power in the SMES so you can't rechage.

I should be able to have a way to counter the most critical flaw of silicons if I'm a traitor AI, as EMP basically makes any fight against an AI a one-sided battle.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:24 pm #279820

Increase the consumption of oxygen by carbon mobs and production of CO2 as well. For an atmospherics simulator, death by lack of air is surprisingly uncommon

XDTM · Post by **XDTM** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:09 pm #279898

That's mostly because everyone starts with ~15 minutes worth of air in a box, removing the oxygen in a room isn't really going to faze anyone as long as that's true.

MrEousTranger · Wed Apr 12, 2017 6:46 pm

FantasticFwoosh wrote:Scanning a poster with your PDA should issue a advertisement, sort of like those barcode scanning things we have with smartphones.

You should then be able to order an item that is shown
Which is then delivered to you through cargo which cargo must deliver to you or else.
Money can be added to your account by inserting cash into pda
Commie posters = ushanka, rare chance of a russian revolver with one bullet
xeno babes poster = a signed copy of "the Lusty Xenomorph Maid" signed By W. Johnson, rare chance of maid dress
Igloves= discount I gloves, rare chance of real I gloves
Silenced pistol = a message from a nigerian prince that when replied to empties your wallet then causes your pda to spam advertizements at other people until it is deactivated
Sec posters = deputy badge, toy sec officer, rare chance of fake sec door controller
Syndicate poster = Syndie Balloon, 2 tc sent directly to uplink if used with a traitor uplink pda, rare chance of fake nuke disk
Ian poster = Toy Ian and Toy HoP, rare chance of recieving a constructable robo corgi named E-N
Nanotrasen = Nanotrasen balloon, rare chance of fake nuke

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 7:43 pm #279959

XDTM wrote:That's mostly because everyone starts with ~15 minutes worth of air in a box, removing the oxygen in a room isn't really going to faze anyone as long as that's true.

If you increase O2 consumption, that tanks not gonna last nearly that long

XDTM · Post by **XDTM** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:19 pm #280001

Even if it was tripled that's still 5 minutes of free coasting before anyone takes a single point of damage from it, so it'll only really be a factor when a huge area is breached or if someone is in space, and it would still prevent assassination via de-oxygenating rooms.

Post by **Armhulen** » Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:52 pm #280035

XDTM wrote:Even if it was tripled that's still 5 minutes of free coasting before anyone takes a single point of damage from it, so it'll only really be a factor when a huge area is breached or if someone is in space, and it would still prevent assassination via de-oxygenating rooms.

It's definitely an improvement though, it makes long term situations problematic.