2k16 /pol/

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 2:37 am #231309

Bottom post of the previous page:

Lies and statistics
Same thing, really

It was mostly the media interpreting things wrong. You may say polls are not that much off, but many polls were reported as if Texas would be a battleground state and Trump had no chance even at the most favourable of error margins in many swing states. Regardless of intent, thanks to the media many have lost faith in these polls. Just like with Brexit. Blame the tool when the user makes a mistake

I could go into detail with things, but yeah. You are correct on pretty much all of that. It is within the margins of many polls, and the media pretty much decided to fuck it all up.

Oversampling things is a legit way to find out, for example, how a minority feels about it by oversampling them. Or one could oversample to make it more closely fit the population(Such as a california poll oversampling democrats. It makes sense not to 1:1 them in places where they aren't present 1:1. But you can't take such a poll as being representative of the whole country like the media was doing in places)

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:21 am #231355

I don't blame the tool when the user has no idea how to use it and does anyway. Most polls also displayed their data as odds of winning, like Trump has 30% chance of winning, people read that as Trump will lose. Not to mention that outside the USA, in the EU for example, media mixed together national and states polls, giving an even more confused report on the situation to people who don't really know how the election works in America. If you report that Hillary is leading in the national poll, without explaining how that means nothing due to electoral college shenanigans, of course people will call you a liar when she loses, even if it turns out to be true.

imblyings · Post by **imblyings** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:51 am #231370

>discussing why a method of propaganda didn't give accurate info

:^)

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:11 pm #231415

XSI wrote:How did he manage to stab 11? Doesnt someone pull a gun after two or three?

Didn't stop Timothy McVeigh, he got 168 people in a matter of seconds. In this day and age where we pack ourselves in so tightly in buildings and streets its a wonder that there isn't more mass killings. Especially with bombs and cars.

Super Aggro Crag · Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:01 pm

I think colleges and those on then should lose the protection of American laws now that they are removing their American flags because it might spook their foreign occupier students.

Super Aggro Crag · Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:08 pm

Couple of em around here and yes, in response to the presidential election not going the way they wanted.

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:59 pm #231455

Protesting by not displaying the flag when one normally would is legitimate. Perhaps distasteful, depending on one's views, but definitely protected by the first amendment.

Anonmare · Post by **Anonmare** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:38 pm #231476

I don't think public schools/colleges/unviersities should be making that kind of statement on politics. They're ought to be as neutral as possible.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Nov 30, 2016 9:58 pm #231481

Depends. If they are fully private schools, then let them do as they want

But if they're funded by public money I can see that as being a bad thing

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:20 am #231589

Anonmare wrote:I don't think public schools/colleges/unviersities should be making that kind of statement on politics. They're ought to be as neutral as possible.

Perhaps, but current law permits publicly funded universities to take political stances. By analogy, I don't think the republican usage of the filibuster has been appropriate, even though it is legal. But, I believe a change to the rules is the solution, not demanding that they apologize for their permitted actions and suggesting they should be denied to protection of U.S law.

On the actual question of whether or not universities SHOULD strive for neutrality, I think it's actually preferable for them not to. I believe that bias is an unavoidable consequence of subjective judgement, and that attempts to remove that bias succeed only in concealing it due to the incentives involved. Thus, I think it's better for universities to explicitly acknowledge their political stances so that those affected can account for and confront them.

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:43 am #231591

CosmicScientist wrote:From the main computer cluster I work in, there's a window with a hastily felt tip penned piece of A3 that reads "REFUGEES WELCOME". It's a year old. I'm not sure if it's an office in the university or a mostly gated off space for students to rarely work in. It looks weird and out of place to me, especially since it's not a window looking out over a well trodden public area, it's pretty much just a part that students and staff walk down and has been the site for construction work for a fairly long time now.

Besides that, recent political outbursts have been... in order... some student spouting about Labour on a megaphone in a commercial street. I could barely understand them, half due to them using a megaphone, half due to their constant swinging the megaphone around so it was never easy to adjust to. Then there was a stall and some other people on a megaphone talking about immigration... but they didn't sound local enough, Newcastle or nationally, to be going off on one about immigrants and the stall had flags on it that I didn't recognise at the time but I think they were the Palestinian one, red triangle with three rows of colours, one of them being green and the other two not really being colourful. Finally there were people with a megaphone who I heard say "Don't shop!" and my flatmate heard say "Don't shoplift!" so we thought they were a part of the Winter market. We wound up circling back around to them and realised they were complaining about a local fashion chain shop selling animal fur products.

I miss me shire where our proud traditions include an annual stabbing, shite cider, singing "tractor, trailer, combine bailer!" and saying "Oo arr!" at the sight of the unclothed ankles of a beef bovine.

When I went to college it was always religion that was crazy. People yelling about how we're all going to hell. I think the worst thing was when some people threw red paint on people going to the vagina monologues. The local chapter of the college republicans were upset that it talked about rape.

Other than that it was pretty tame. I actually went to a protest where I protested to get workers paid a extra penny for every pound of tomatoes that they bring in so they could get paid about $7.00 a hour. (still not that good of a wage in FL but...)

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:32 pm #231688

How do those people not get the everloving shit kicked out of them on a regular basis? If some fucker doused me in red paint because >stop liking what i don't like I would probably try to remove his teeth with my shoe

Screemonster · Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:01 pm

Usually 'cause they show up in a mob, and cry police brutality when the police arrest them, and if anyone else does anything the fuckers take that as a greenlight to beat the shit out of them.

Think of them like greytiders with the escalation memes. If they win the fight they say they dindu nothing and were attacked first, if they get dunked they mash ahelp about being killed 4noraisins.

Wyzack · Post by **Wyzack** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:23 pm #231697

Time to start walking around campus with a fire extinguisher.

Maybe it is because my town is relatively small but i never see any crazies like that, at the college or the university

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:37 pm #231702

im getting a bad case of salt deprivation, anyone have some vids of really salty people? i've already seen all the ones that are posted in the trump general on /pol/ but there HAS to be more compilations out there.

Screemonster · Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:38 pm

tbh lately whenever I feel like a laugh at those people I just watch that vid I posted a page back of the flag burner setting themselves on fire, honestly I don't think it'll ever get old

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:36 pm #231780

Wyzack wrote:How do those people not get the everloving shit kicked out of them on a regular basis? If some fucker doused me in red paint because >stop liking what i don't like I would probably try to remove his teeth with my shoe

They were arrested. The problem is that its usually a group of them and only one of them does it. Then shit like that happens again later. There is a endless supply of bullshit. After I graduated I read in a paper the same group tried to put up a chain-link fence around a Cinco de Mayo festival while it was going on.

The problem is people.

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:58 pm #233201

>trump won time's person of the year

dear god the salt mining will never stop

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:33 pm #233207

So did Hitler, and Stalin (twice)

Drynwyn · Post by **Drynwyn** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:23 am #233367

Yeah, as I understand it Person of the Year is meant to be a rating of overall intensity of effect on the world, not a judgement call. If Times hadn't picked Trump they'd be simply wrong. Like him, hate him, or anything in between, he's certainly had an effect.

Super Aggro Crag · Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:11 pm

All de shitlibs have brought up dat Hitler won it as well as some sort of roundabout way to conflate trump with Hitler. If shitlary kkklinton won it tho they'd be taking to the streets demanding we overturn our democracy and install her as Matriarch for Life

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:39 pm #233559

Jesus Christ, tone down the memes.

Super Aggro Crag · Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:58 pm

Stop using the word meme improperly.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:34 pm #233577

American politics are a meme, though.

starmute · Post by **starmute** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:20 am #233787

Super Aggro Crag wrote:Stop using the word meme improperly.

Out of curiosity, what is the appropriate way to use "meme". What was improper about his usage?

MrAlphonzo · Post by **MrAlphonzo** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:32 pm #233880

Question.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/12/09/trump-of ... -news.html

Did I read this right?

If so

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:03 am #234003

Nah, it's the lugenpress. Only believe what infowars and russian government-controlled news websites tell you

Toronto88 · Post by **Toronto88** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:55 pm #234041

[youtube]CdMfciMgfCk[/youtube]

Don't lie Wyzack you wouldn't kick anybody in the teeth. I assume everyone here is a White Nationalist, correct?

MrAlphonzo · Post by **MrAlphonzo** » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:17 pm #234051

Grazyn wrote:Nah, it's the lugenpress. Only believe what infowars and russian government-controlled news websites tell you

You're right, I should only trust news sources with discount Dragon Ball Z screaming.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:27 pm #234792

starmute wrote:The problem is people.

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Fri Dec 16, 2016 5:07 am #235961

Really makes you hmm

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:51 pm #236890

A chance to see a christian Constantinople in our lifetime just opened up

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:58 pm #236891

Grazyn wrote:A chance to see a christian Constantinople in our lifetime just opened up

NSFW:

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP

TheColdTurtle · Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:12 pm

OH FUUUUUUG. What were his motivations? Did he died?

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:41 pm #236911

TheColdTurtle wrote:OH FUUUUUUG. What were his motivations? Did he died?

Both dead, shooter got lit the fuck up. No video of that though just a distractingly high quality image of his bloody corpse and a wall full of bullet holes.

>What were his motivations
You can hear him scream them just fine.

Super Aggro Crag · Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:20 pm

Dont waste nuclear arms on turkey, the radiation just makes roaches bigger

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:12 pm #237320

I don't know where to put this but holy shit

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/745 ... un-Muslims

When do we get truck mounted x-ray cannons in SS13?

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:22 pm #237323

Jesus. Why can't people like this do something useful.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:11 am #237346

Einstein built the atom bomb.

TheColdTurtle · Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:17 am

This guy is without a doubt working for the military now. Fucking xray guns in an easily conceal able truck? If that gets smaller you can put that shit in a little car and do covert ops against enemies while they don't even know they are being bombarded with lethal radiation. Holy shit the possibilities of this.

XSI · Post by **XSI** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:41 am #237354

It's not exactly something the military hasn't investigated before

Maybe it was 40 years ago, but it is a thing that is technically entirely possible and they know it

Cik · Post by **Cik** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:13 am #237355

there was a MARAUDER system that was made in the early nineties that was some sort of highly-energized plasma weapon

needless to say it disappeared into DARPA forever ago and hasn't been heard from since. but it was promising apparently

TheColdTurtle · Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:22 am

I wonder if it will show up again now in the military, what with a random kkk member being able to make it in a garage

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:24 am #237370

Goofcrafting.webm

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 7:00 am #237395

D&B wrote:Goofcrafting.webm

With special focus on the cancerous part.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:46 am #237423

GENETICALLY MODIFIED FOREIGN OFFICERS OPERATING IN SYRIA

[youtube]ZWrbVknEO4A[/youtube]

17:20

what a time to be alive

Screemonster · Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:00 pm

CosmicScientist wrote:I thought cancerous lasers wouldn't be much use for the military? Don't they prefer weapons that kill within the year?

yeah, irradiating someone isn't going to stop them shooting back at you and there are far more portable means of murdering a bunch of people

As a weapon of terror though I guess it has its applications 'cause after the first bunch of people come down with radiation sickness days or weeks after the event (and the ensuing media storm) people would start getting paranoid about the possibility that something could be killing them without them even knowing it, a-la Alexander Litvinenko on a mass scale. Even then I'm pretty sure the military/cloak-and-dagger agencies have better options available.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:15 pm #237445

Might not be useful to the bread and butter military but highly useful to CIA black ops.

Also I thought Xrays were relatively unharmful, non-ionizing, radiation and only posed a health risk from long term exposure?
Or was this thing dialled up to 11 or modified to fire gamma rays?

Also also, something seems off about the video.
You're telling me that the two guys that built a death ray in their garage aren't going to panic in the slightest when an armed swat team storms the building?
This is either a false flag fake so ZOG can continue importing muslims or its part of Trumps plan to cleanse the mudskins whilst blaming the actions on radical groups like the KKK.

Jazaen · Post by **Jazaen** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:33 pm #237466

I think this thing requires quite some exposure time. Plus, it either kills very slowly and with much uncertainty, or gives quite obvious signs of radiation poisoning.

Cik · Post by **Cik** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:21 pm #237473

>he escaped

???? how did that happen

no one tackled him or shot him or something? did he run with the vehicle, or leave on foot? either way how the fuck did he survive the lynch mob that surely formed(?)

was there a lynch mob? there really should have been a lynch mob.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:52 pm #237592

are you dreaming of a white power christmas