Purchasable Shuttles

onleavedontatme · Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:12 am

How are they working out?

Which ones do you like or dislike?

Do you have any ideas for more?

Okand37 · Post by **Okand37** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:21 am #227773

I think we could use a few more regular shuttles and less gag-shuttles, but I think they're a lot of fun!

I'd be willing to make some more if you have any ideas.

BeeSting12 · Post by **BeeSting12** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:24 am #227774

It's fun, but sorta sucks when people besides the captain (HoP) get to the console and order one that noone wants. Should be the ability to refund them for 80% of the original cost- or in the case of the shuttles where NT pays you, you have to pay 120% of what you received for using it. I especially like the one with the statue that changes you and the luxury shuttle. (luxury shuttle shouldn't be able to be cheesed with beacons) I think there's a prisoner transport shuttle, can't remember tbh, but that shuttle should have full brig flooring except the cockpit.

onleavedontatme · Fri Nov 18, 2016 1:56 am

I think there's a prisoner transport shuttle, can't remember tbh, but that shuttle should have full brig flooring except the cockpit.

Sounds a bit powergamey

Okand37 wrote:I think we could use a few more regular shuttles and less gag-shuttles, but I think they're a lot of fun!

We actually have quite a few non-gag shuttles, but they're generally not worth spending points on since they more or less function the game.

Though I agree more subtle gimmicks like the bar shuttle having a bardrone would be good, not everything needs to be like the asteroid.

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:50 am #227844

I like em. More variety is always a plus.
SM shuttle orderable when?

onleavedontatme · Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:59 am

I'd rather not add pure banbait to the list

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:28 am #227850

We need a bigger asteroid shuttle.

Titanic shuttle with freon atmosphere and half broken freon flooring when?

onleavedontatme · Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:44 am

D&B wrote:We need a bigger asteroid shuttle.

Titanic shuttle with freon atmosphere and half broken freon flooring when?

When freon stops crashing the server

Deitus · Post by **Deitus** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:51 am #227857

should be noted that asteroid shuttle on box clips well over half of chapel and such, kills anyone near there. probably a bug but still

Slettal · Post by **Slettal** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:14 am #227878

Deitus wrote:should be noted that asteroid shuttle on box clips well over half of chapel and such, kills anyone near there. probably a bug but still

That is funny though. A rock is probably not very maneuverable. I'd like to keep the rock shuttle that way

Doctor Pork · Post by **Doctor Pork** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:29 am #227879

UFO shuttle when

confused rock · Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:51 am

gimme the ability to attach a teleport beacon to one so you can teleport there

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 7:07 am #227885

Deitus wrote:should be noted that asteroid shuttle on box clips well over half of chapel and such, kills anyone near there. probably a bug but still

Intentional, so i'm told.

at48 · Post by **at48** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:29 am #227899

Shuttles are fun.

Ideas:

Syndie or wizard shuttle, minus antag items(?)
Sleeper shuttle/Ark - you go in, shuttle full of sleepers, no air. Sleeper is locked either on launch or when it takes off to Centcomm. Heads get fancier area. Air drains from shuttle after you launch, so you can't just mill around.
Hologram shuttle? Might not work.

Post by **oranges** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:33 am #227900

explicitly not a bug

Post by **Fatal** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 8:59 am #227905

They're great but really need the option to change after it's been selected

Most of the time it's some greytider with all access buying some shitty shuttle on purpose to fuck the crew and then it can't be changed

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:43 pm #227929

Asteroid shuttle needs more pickaxes

InsaneHyena · Fri Nov 18, 2016 12:50 pm

> It's captain buys the asteroid shuttle episode
Nearly every round I've played in. I only saw a different shuttle bought once. Also, shuttle list really could use a better interface.

BeeSting12 · Post by **BeeSting12** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:00 pm #228078

Oh, it would also be nice if it was clearer which purchase button purchases which shuttle for dumb people like me. Maybe lines seperating the shuttle descrip/purchase button into a box for each shuttle.

Limey · Post by **Limey** » Fri Nov 18, 2016 11:34 pm #228085

luxury shuttle is fucking hilarious and I love the class separation

Incomptinence · Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:04 am

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/21627

Saeg spits the dummy at anything interesting once more, back to your paperwork assistant.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:07 am #228115

Bomb escape hallway instead and see where that gets you. Same effect really.

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:30 am #228123

There's like a good window with a warning that it's gonna dock.

This is just like that pr that wanted to enable emergency maintenance access automatically during radstorms. Only thing it does is hold the hand of the players rather than add obstacles that only become troublesome due to negligence.

Incomptinence · Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:30 am

If bombs gave little handy marker beforehand on where they would explode then materialised into a nice helpful shuttle instead of empty space, suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

onleavedontatme · Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:35 am

Should buying destructive shuttles (like the giant asteroid) result in a ban for the captain?

Yes, it kills too many people: 2
No, it's funny and people can move out of the way: 37
I don't know what you're talking about or care very much either: 4
Did not vote: 31

Incomptinence · Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:40 am

Sorry kor doesn't matter shadow headmin Saeg has spoken.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:09 am #228136

"Try not to run this into the ground."

D&B · Post by **D&B** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:33 am #228147

We're not running it into the ground

We're running it into medbay ayy

Alipheese · Post by **Alipheese** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:34 am #228148

D&B wrote:We're not running it into the ground

We're running it into medbay ayy

God dammit

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 4:45 am #228154

2/3 Headmin confirmation (Third unreachable)

- OK for captains to buy the shuttle (bwoink if done too often, ban if they keep doing it)
- OK for people who break in and steal the spare to buy the shuttle (bwoink if done too often, ban if they keep doing it)

Reminder that:
- I still haven't banned anybody for this
- I still haven't even warned anybody for this
- I still haven't even told someone to chill out on ordering these
- This entire drama bomb is Goofball starting more bullshit and making a meme PR instead of going with what he first offered which is a shuttle notification.
- Remove Goofball

I'd like to thank everybody involved, myself included, for falling for goof bait when literally nothing happened aside from him trying to remove a bunch of shuttles like a kid kicking his own lego fort down.

Limey · Post by **Limey** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:03 am #228158

doofball

Screemonster · Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:04 am

Give them a credit_cost and a credit_minimum so if you do no work on the station at all, your options are the terrible negative-price ones.
(Credit minimum? Maybe a credits_earned so someone can't blow the entire cargo point allowance to force a shit shuttle, but _can_ bomb the cargo bay at roundstart or something to prevent anyone shipping plasma back to central)

That way the asteroid shuttle could be literally the captain's only option if cargo hasn't been shipping shit, so it'll still see some use beyond "lol I'm a nonantag and I'm going to call the meme shuttle"

tl;dr the standard shuttle won't take anything out of your budget, but NT will give you the finger if you ask for it before you've put the hours in

Alipheese · Post by **Alipheese** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:24 am #228176

A real cock gobbling amount of luxury type of shuttle.
1,000,000 credits.
Pure bananaium everything. Large shuttle, not size of the astroid with rockets large, but like twice the size of the normal shuttle and like everything is made to be as expensive as fucking possible to be like. We are drowning in virtual cash. With like rare artefacts in showcases like a Lamarr or a antique gun (fake) and some hi tech gun (fake) and some cool shit and whatnot. Like the end all be all im rich mother fucker type of shuttle.

Screemonster · Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:35 am

Make one that's only available by emagging the console that claims to be an emergency shuttle but instead sends the ops shuttle. Complete with turrets.

Alipheese · Post by **Alipheese** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:42 am #228183

Screemonster wrote:Make one that's only available by emagging the console that claims to be an emergency shuttle but instead sends the ops shuttle. Complete with turrets.

This. Yes.

Post by **oranges** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 9:25 am #228191

make the luxury shuttle giver you a badge if you ride it to centcomm

firecage · Post by **firecage** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:10 am #228196

Why not just do this? In the tab which shows what map it is, it also shows what the current shuttle which will come is. And then also add party lights to Escape if its a destructive shuttle. Then you merely weed out the idiots.

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 10:13 am #228197

Some people SERIOUSLY forgot what this game is about

10. Losing is part of the game.
Your character will frequently die, sometimes without even a possibility of avoiding it. Events will often be out of your control. No matter how good or prepared you are, sometimes you just lose.

Post by **Arianya** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 3:52 pm #228227

CPTANT wrote:Some people SERIOUSLY forgot what this game is about

10. Losing is part of the game.
Your character will frequently die, sometimes without even a possibility of avoiding it. Events will often be out of your control. No matter how good or prepared you are, sometimes you just lose.

Someone also seriously forgot about the second rule of the server.

1. Don't be a dick.

at48 · Post by **at48** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:22 pm #228275

Can we make a shuttle not purchasable for 5 rounds after last purchase? Asteroid shuttle is funny and all, but every round removes the hilarity.

onleavedontatme · Sat Nov 19, 2016 7:29 pm

at48 wrote:Can we make a shuttle not purchasable for 5 rounds after last purchase? Asteroid shuttle is funny and all, but every round removes the hilarity.

This wouldn't be bad. Maybe just a random pool of shuttles available every round.

CPTANT · Post by **CPTANT** » Sat Nov 19, 2016 8:22 pm #228293

Kor wrote:
at48 wrote:Can we make a shuttle not purchasable for 5 rounds after last purchase? Asteroid shuttle is funny and all, but every round removes the hilarity.
This wouldn't be bad. Maybe just a random pool of shuttles available every round.

Pool is fine.

I would also be fine with just having a random shuttle each round, so people stop whining about other "people" ruining their fun.

Come on, a giant asteroid slamming into escape is about as !!!FUN!!! as it gets.

calzilla1 · Post by **calzilla1** » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:56 am #228382

THE MONEY SHUTTLE DOESN'T FUCKING WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORK

Post by **Armhulen** » Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:34 pm #228851

it does and i love it

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:37 am #229227

Asteroid strikes again.
This time taking out the entirety of the main area of xenobio and everything up to R&D. No escape. Better hope your slimes like you.

Grazyn · Post by **Grazyn** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:42 am #229235

Yeah that's what happens when captain buys the shuttle at round start, then the round goes on for a couple hours and by the time the shuttle is called everyone has forgotten it was the asteroid one. I was in deep red health and hardsuit, so no real chance to leave the area in 10 seconds, but still it would be nice to have a notification when shuttle is called to remind people what kind of shuttle has been bought, would help with the luxury one too.

onleavedontatme · Wed Nov 23, 2016 12:10 pm

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/21704

Durkel · Post by **Durkel** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:40 pm #229287

>captain buys the luxury shuttle
>warn everyone they're going to need some space dosh to get on
>no one listens
>I ride home alone on a nice big shuttle while everyone stands impotently at the dock screaming in frustration.

It's glorious, retards deserve to be punished for not listening.

Screemonster · Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:48 pm

Do loyalist crew in the pleb-compartment still count for preventing a hijack objective?

'cause they shouldn't.

onleavedontatme · Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:55 am

Screemonster wrote:Do loyalist crew in the pleb-compartment still count for preventing a hijack objective?

'cause they shouldn't.

I could make it brig floor