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Bottom post of the previous page:

I asked in OOC and an admin said only they could mess with floor tile colours. It made me mucho sado.
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Floor colours are integral to a map, we have to manually add different coloured panels via the game panel or VV edit if we want to change how a floor looks. Same with walls.
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Another one.

Legion cores. Do they differ if implanted whilst active than if they're not active?

EDIT: While I remember, I wanted to ask about flashes.

:flash:

Obviously they work when applied to someone. But do they get their full effects when clicked inhand in immediate proximity to anything?
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Post by DemonFiren » #196369

Can't implant active ones for all I know, they're just applied normally instead.
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How do you destroy sandbags?
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Post by Screemonster » #203746

Where did the "this kills tactical chairs" meme start?
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Screemonster wrote:Where did the "this kills tactical chairs" meme start?
I can't remember who it originated with, but the context was someone's response over a PR which involved chairs, and the line itself was regarding lines of chairs set up facing fore/North, which caused peoples' sprites to be hidden behind them and thus be harder to click.
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Post by Anonmare » #203752

Don't forget tactical tables for disabling rogue cyborgs
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AnonymousNow wrote:
Screemonster wrote:Where did the "this kills tactical chairs" meme start?
I can't remember who it originated with, but the context was someone's response over a PR which involved chairs, and the line itself was regarding lines of chairs set up facing fore/North, which caused peoples' sprites to be hidden behind them and thus be harder to click.
no the PR made it so attacking with a weapon in a general direction would automatically hit nearby targets instead of having to click them directly
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Post by TheColdTurtle » #203832

Demon, you are wrong, I get fresh ones implanted all the time. Fresh legion souls spawn two of the blood minion things when you click it, instead of only one. I have no idea if it heals faster or not
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the fuck is a cannister bomb? People were talking about them a while back, no idea.
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TheColdTurtle wrote:Demon, you are wrong, I get fresh ones implanted all the time. Fresh legion souls spawn two of the blood minion things when you click it, instead of only one. I have no idea if it heals faster or not
I was told the answer to this in the end; I should've relayed it here, so I'm doing that now.

Legion souls come in three flavours, and when implanted, they are, in ascending order of healing power...

- Inert
- Stable
- Active

The previous two will let you spawn a blood brood, whereas the last one will let you spawn two. However, when not implanted, only the latter two will fully heal you if you splat it onto yourself.

It's possible and safe to do prep surgery before going into the mines, so that when you get a legion core you can run back to the mining station, jump onto the table and have a buddy implant it into you fresh (optional: seal the wound with a welder). Couple that with a healing virus, possibly changelingism, and a medibot, and you'll come out of crit.
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Post by Malkevin » #203880

Falamazeer wrote:the fuck is a cannister bomb? People were talking about them a while back, no idea.
Its the same as a TTV bomb except instead of using a TTV and two tanks you use a tank and a canister.
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AnonymousNow wrote:
TheColdTurtle wrote:Demon, you are wrong, I get fresh ones implanted all the time. Fresh legion souls spawn two of the blood minion things when you click it, instead of only one. I have no idea if it heals faster or not
I was told the answer to this in the end; I should've relayed it here, so I'm doing that now.

Legion souls come in three flavours, and when implanted, they are, in ascending order of healing power...

- Inert
- Stable
- Active

The previous two will let you spawn a blood brood, whereas the last one will let you spawn two. However, when not implanted, only the latter two will fully heal you if you splat it onto yourself.



It's possible and safe to do prep surgery before going into the mines, so that when you get a legion core you can run back to the mining station, jump onto the table and have a buddy implant it into you fresh (optional: seal the wound with a welder). Couple that with a healing virus, possibly changelingism, and a medibot, and you'll come out of crit.
Stabilized ones spawn two broods.
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Post by AnonymousNow » #203893

Oh, same for stabilised cores? I took that bit from word of mouth, so I can't be sure.
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Post by Falamazeer » #203904

Malkevin wrote:
Falamazeer wrote:the fuck is a cannister bomb? People were talking about them a while back, no idea.
Its the same as a TTV bomb except instead of using a TTV and two tanks you use a tank and a canister.
Huh... thanks.
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Malkevin wrote:Its the same as a TTV bomb except instead of using a TTV and two tanks you use a tank and a canister.
What's the point of a canister bomb anyway? The only thing I can think of is that you don't need a Tank-transfer valve to make one but they're not THAT hard to get.
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Post by qwert » #203920

Is chlorine trifluoride foam supposed not to burn at all?
Will blackpowder smoke turn everything around into high explosive zone?
Will the napalm foam/blackpowder foam be capable of exploding or making fire?
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Do reagents mix inside the mob in TG code?
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Post by Reece » #203933

They do mix inside people yes.
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Post by Screemonster » #203940

Anonmare wrote:
Malkevin wrote:Its the same as a TTV bomb except instead of using a TTV and two tanks you use a tank and a canister.
What's the point of a canister bomb anyway? The only thing I can think of is that you don't need a Tank-transfer valve to make one but they're not THAT hard to get.
They're quick to make, and ideally you don't want to be the one setting it off.
Now, if you can swap the O2 tank in EVA, you know, the one everyone going to space uses to top up their oxygen tanks, with an O2 tank full of heated plasma and wait for someone to pop in for a refill...
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Post by Malkevin » #203942

Anonmare wrote:
Malkevin wrote:Its the same as a TTV bomb except instead of using a TTV and two tanks you use a tank and a canister.
What's the point of a canister bomb anyway? The only thing I can think of is that you don't need a Tank-transfer valve to make one but they're not THAT hard to get.
So Atmos can blow shit up.

Both toxins and atmos are completely inferior to the corn chemist though.
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What exactly does the Wish Granter do? I got to one after about two hours of effort the other day - it said it was listening, I told it my wish, and nothing happened.
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AnonymousNow wrote:What exactly does the Wish Granter do? I got to one after about two hours of effort the other day - it said it was listening, I told it my wish, and nothing happened.
Grants wishes :honk:

In all seriousness, gives you a list of things (power, riches, succ) and it gives you that and also transforms you into a shadow person.

Which kills you since all the dungeon tiles are alight.
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AnonymousNow wrote:What exactly does the Wish Granter do? I got to one after about two hours of effort the other day - it said it was listening, I told it my wish, and nothing happened.
when you say "told it your wish" do you mean you spoke a wish aloud or did you click on it again and pick a wish
also if you pick world peace it kills all the faithless (which is pretty much pointless since they're usually all dead by the time you reach the granter), pick immortality that shit's busted
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PKPenguin321 wrote: when you say "told it your wish" do you mean you spoke a wish aloud or did you click on it again and pick a wish
I spoke it. I also clicked on it again, but it said it was inactive. Was another option supposed to appear if you clicked it again immediately after the listening message? Because, well, it didn't.
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Yeah something musta fucked up
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I've noticed "organs" in the game for arms with laser guns/toolkits in them, how does one get these augmentations legitimately in-game?
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D4C wrote:I've noticed "organs" in the game for arms with laser guns/toolkits in them, how does one get these augmentations legitimately in-game?
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	name = "Toolset Arm implant"
	desc = "A stripped-down version of engineering cyborg toolset, designed to be installed on subject's arm."
	id = "ci-toolset"
	req_tech = list("materials" = 3, "engineering" = 4, "biotech" = 4, "powerstorage" = 4)
	build_type = PROTOLATHE | MECHFAB
	materials = list (MAT_METAL = 2500, MAT_GLASS = 1500, MAT_SILVER = 1500)
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Post by Reece » #207785

How do you make the meteor shield satellites work?
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Post by Anonmare » #207792

Do you mean the anti-breach shields? They need to be turned on manually by hand, they don't need a power source and will cover any space tile in a, I think 8 by 8 tile diameter, with a breach shield.
They're meant to close up breaches but they make great anti-meteor defences.
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No, the station objective, you get three shield satellites (actually PD satellites but who's for consitensy) and a control board that you need to 'deploy' to get the goal, Problem is nothing fucking makes them turn on no matter where you put the bloody things.
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I was told combustible lemons work like hand grenades, but they expode instantly in my hands. Wat do?
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InsaneHyena wrote:I was told combustible lemons work like hand grenades, but they expode instantly in my hands. Wat do?
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/20132
They were meant to be like IEDs apperantly.
For now you could probably just set them on fire, they'll explode after a few seconds.
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How come some people say spessmen can live without a heart, but when i did abductor shit, taking out the heart killed them


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Reyn wrote:How come some people say spessmen can live without a heart, but when i did abductor shit, taking out the heart killed them


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You used to be able to remove a heart then defib the person and they would live, but it was fixed a month or so ago.

Also, you're supposed to replace their hearts as abductors, not just take them out.
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How do I deconstruct a vending machine? Wiki's outdated and the method shown there doesn't work.
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Post by Wyzack » #209533

Uh, i think screwdriver wrench knocks it back to a machine frame and spits out the stocker units, then i think you just need to screwdriver out the board, cut out the wires and wrench to make the frame into metal
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Post by Raphaella » #209536

BeeSting12 wrote:How do I deconstruct a vending machine? Wiki's outdated and the method shown there doesn't work.
I just tested the method on the wiki and it worked fine! Screwdriver, then crowbar to remove the circuit board+stocking units, wirecutter to remove the wires, and wrench to unwrench the machine frame.

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Some vendors can't be deconned, like the kitchen one
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TribeOfBeavers wrote:
Reyn wrote:How come some people say spessmen can live without a heart, but when i did abductor shit, taking out the heart killed them


I THOUGHT A MAN WAS A MISERABLE PILE OF SECRETS, NOT A PILE OF GUTS.-Draculayylmao

You used to be able to remove a heart then defib the person and they would live, but it was fixed a month or so ago.

Also, you're supposed to replace their hearts as abductors, not just take them out.
Removing a spessman's heart should cause rapid oxyloss over time, instead of killing them outright, if it does that.
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AnonymousNow wrote:
TribeOfBeavers wrote:
Reyn wrote:How come some people say spessmen can live without a heart, but when i did abductor shit, taking out the heart killed them


I THOUGHT A MAN WAS A MISERABLE PILE OF SECRETS, NOT A PILE OF GUTS.-Draculayylmao

You used to be able to remove a heart then defib the person and they would live, but it was fixed a month or so ago.

Also, you're supposed to replace their hearts as abductors, not just take them out.
Removing a spessman's heart should cause rapid oxyloss over time, instead of killing them outright, if it does that.
It does, it causes a "heart attack" which does oxy damage. The only organ that outright kills you when its removed is the brain.
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Post by PKPenguin321 » #209588

iirc if you tear out a heart via organ manipulation the patient just dies, but last time i tried that was a while ago so it may have changed
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Post by TribeOfBeavers » #209590

PKPenguin321 wrote:iirc if you tear out a heart via organ manipulation the patient just dies, but last time i tried that was a while ago so it may have changed
It definitely doesnt now, you die pretty fast from the ox loss though. I've removed hearts from monkey people to replace abductor organs pretty recently, the heart actually keeps beating for a few seconds after you pull it out.
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Re: Simple Questions Thread

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TribeOfBeavers wrote:
Reyn wrote:How come some people say spessmen can live without a heart, but when i did abductor shit, taking out the heart killed them


I THOUGHT A MAN WAS A MISERABLE PILE OF SECRETS, NOT A PILE OF GUTS.-Draculayylmao

You used to be able to remove a heart then defib the person and they would live, but it was fixed a month or so ago.

Also, you're supposed to replace their hearts as abductors, not just take them out.
Tried that, didnt work. Most of the time we just crammed shit in there
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Post by FantasticFwoosh » #209752

Can you make a room on lavaland (lets say a 3x3 of dug out rock with a 1 door wide entrance) just out of a sandstone door as long as it walled in by rock-face via the 'create a room' button or does it have to be specifically built/prerequisite.

And do statues count as wall barriers to newly designated rooms to complete them?

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Post by Remie Richards » #209763

FantasticFwoosh wrote:Can you make a room on lavaland (lets say a 3x3 of dug out rock with a 1 door wide entrance) just out of a sandstone door as long as it walled in by rock-face via the 'create a room' button or does it have to be specifically built/prerequisite.

And do statues count as wall barriers to newly designated rooms to complete them?
it only counts windows/doors and walls.
and there cannot be any space (read: spess as in spessmens) in the "room".
the room must also be smaller than 300 turfs total, so 17x17 or smaller (18x17 is invalid)
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Can you turn a brain into a phylactry? If so will it then work in an MMI.
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Reece wrote:Can you turn a brain into a phylactry? If so will it then work in an MMI.
As i'm pretty sure the brain is the only thing you DON'T lose when you become a lich, probably not

EDIT: PROBABLY FIXED THOSE SPELLING ERRORS
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Reyn wrote: loose
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Post by FantasticFwoosh » #209839

Remie Richards wrote:
FantasticFwoosh wrote:Can you make a room on lavaland (lets say a 3x3 of dug out rock with a 1 door wide entrance) just out of a sandstone door as long as it walled in by rock-face via the 'create a room' button or does it have to be specifically built/prerequisite.

And do statues count as wall barriers to newly designated rooms to complete them?
it only counts windows/doors and walls.
and there cannot be any space (read: spess as in spessmens) in the "room".
the room must also be smaller than 300 turfs total, so 17x17 or smaller (18x17 is invalid)
So i can build ashwalker and ash proof personal tribal huts in little caves blocked off with sandstone doors? neat.

Also = Miner just digs sand, collects sand and builds a rock hut instead of using a pod despite no air & pressure.

I assume the thing i just got excited about can't be done and requires real flooring (which would really only require a lever to steal from a ruin then replace the basalt to create pseudo plating)

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Post by Reece » #209866

Reyn wrote:
Reece wrote:Can you turn a brain into a phylactry? If so will it then work in an MMI.
As i'm pretty sure the brain is the only thing you DON'T lose when you become a lich, probably not

EDIT: PROBABLY FIXED THOSE SPELLING ERRORS
I meant someone else's brain, so say if I wanted to meme around as a D&D nerd wizard I could steal the caps brain, turn it into a phylactery and have it still function inside the MMI?
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