Simple Questions Thread

[FantasticFwoosh]

Bottom post of the previous page:

Is it normal for molotovs to only burn a single tile?

Molotovs are like canister bombs, if you can fill them up with a specialist mix, or even use lighter fuel you can get a better reaction instead of using pure alcohol that only burns a single tile.

Yeah, they are kinda shit. They would be less bad if fire could burn things besides gas

In its current form, its the safest way to functionally light gas without using a lightswitch with plasma filled lights, especially if you dont have a firesuit and are using it as a escape mechanic (Weld and lever all exits to escape shut, lay down plasma, throw lit molotov before you leave while you make a dash for the shuttle console to keep everyone occupied)

[confused rock]

like canister bombs, if you can fill them up with a specialist mix, or even use lighter fuel you can get a better reaction instead of using pure alcohol that only burns a single tile.

How do you make canister bombs anyway?

[Mister_Doc]

Do antag preferences save on a per-character basis or are they global?

[francinum]

Do antag preferences save on a per-character basis or are they global?

Global

[CPTANT]

When hosting a private server, how do I switch maps?

[TheNightingale]

I think you have to untick the default and tick the one you want in Dream Maker. Somehow I got it so Boxstation was Z1, and Metastation was Z8.

[Jordie0608]

When hosting a private server, how do I switch maps?

With dream maker, untick _maps/tgstation2.dm and tick _maps/mapyouwant.dm then recompile.
These code files automatically include all the map and, if it has any, code files needed to play that map; It's possible to tick a .dmm directly to include it but that'll error out in some cases.

[confused rock]

Why and how is the sleeping carp gang special?

[Xhuis]

Why and how is the sleeping carp gang special?

The Sleeping Carp gang cannot use guns. They are instead focused around martial arts and melee. They can spend 30 influence on a scroll which gives them a unique martial art with combos and, more importantly, the ability to deflect all projectiles unless the user is a hulk.

[Deitus]

why does the cook get bar access but not vice versa?

[Xhuis]

why does the cook get bar access but not vice versa?

The cook can access the bar, but not the bar vending machine.

[newfren]

It's intended for chefs who want to take up my valuable bar space serving fucking food.

[CPTANT]

What are the steps I need to do to make myself game admin on my own test server?

I added my name as GameMaster is admins.txt but for some reason I am not getting the admin rights.

edit: nevermind, I recompiled from scratch and it worked.

[Cheimon]

It's intended for chefs who want to take up my valuable bar space serving fucking food.

It wasn't that valuable until half of it got turned into a table for the world's worst card-game game-engine.

[confused rock]

if you are using a fire extinguisher, whats the chance of a knock down if targeting the arm or leg?
whats the chance if targeting the chest?
whats the chance if targeting the head?
whats the knock out chance when targeting the head?

[TheNightingale]

You can only get a knockdown when you hit the chest, and a knockout when you hit the head.
The chance of a knockdown is (f)+10, where (f) is the weapon's natural force. The chance of a knockout is just (f).

So a fire extinguisher (force 10) has a 20% chance to knock someone down when you bash their chest - and a 10% to KO them with a hit to the head.
An energy sword has a ~42% chance to knock down when targeting the chest, and an armblade has 35%. Pretty robust.

[TechnoAlchemist]

You can only get a knockdown when you hit the chest, and a knockout when you hit the head.
The chance of a knockdown is (f)+10, where (f) is the weapon's natural force. The chance of a knockout is just (f).

So a fire extinguisher (force 10) has a 20% chance to knock someone down when you bash their chest - and a 10% to KO them with a hit to the head.
An energy sword has a ~42% chance to knock down when targeting the chest, and an armblade has 35%. Pretty robust.

Is knockdown chance calculated after armor?

[Zilenan91]

You can only get a knockdown when you hit the chest, and a knockout when you hit the head.
The chance of a knockdown is (f)+10, where (f) is the weapon's natural force. The chance of a knockout is just (f).

So a fire extinguisher (force 10) has a 20% chance to knock someone down when you bash their chest - and a 10% to KO them with a hit to the head.
An energy sword has a ~42% chance to knock down when targeting the chest, and an armblade has 35%. Pretty robust.

Fire extinguisher is force 8. They're an awful weapon.
Energy Swords and Armblades do 31 brute. Armblades are strictly better because no disarms.

[Malkevin]

You can only get a knockdown when you hit the chest, and a knockout when you hit the head.
The chance of a knockdown is (f)+10, where (f) is the weapon's natural force. The chance of a knockout is just (f).

So a fire extinguisher (force 10) has a 20% chance to knock someone down when you bash their chest - and a 10% to KO them with a hit to the head.
An energy sword has a ~42% chance to knock down when targeting the chest, and an armblade has 35%. Pretty robust.

Is knockdown chance calculated after armor?

IIRC...yes

[Xhuis]

You can only get a knockdown when you hit the chest, and a knockout when you hit the head.
The chance of a knockdown is (f)+10, where (f) is the weapon's natural force. The chance of a knockout is just (f).

So a fire extinguisher (force 10) has a 20% chance to knock someone down when you bash their chest - and a 10% to KO them with a hit to the head.
An energy sword has a ~42% chance to knock down when targeting the chest, and an armblade has 35%. Pretty robust.

Fire extinguisher is force 8. They're an awful weapon.
Energy Swords and Armblades do 31 brute. Armblades are strictly better because no disarms.

I have no idea where you got that information from. Fire extinguishers have had a force of 10 and have for as long as I can remember. Arm blades have 25 force, and energy swords have 30 (with double energy swords having 34).

[Zilenan91]

I'm like 99% sure that energy swords have 31 brute, as do arm blades. If I'm wrong then okay then.

[confused rock]

I know you can go straight up from the abandoned teleporter on box to reach the white ship, but metastation has a different white ship. how do I meta my way over there?

[Zilenan91]

I think you go directly to the left from the abandoned teleporter. You may want a jetpack because I don't remember if it leads you right next to it, but it is in view if you don't move at all.

[newfren]

Neither of those things are true and they haven't been true for a little while. Space is randomised now.

[Remie Richards]

I'm like 99% sure that energy swords have 31 brute, as do arm blades. If I'm wrong then okay then.

Energy swords use the base force_on value, which is:

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var/force_on = 30 //force when active

Arm blades:

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/obj/item/weapon/melee/arm_blade
	name = "arm blade"
	desc = "A grotesque blade made out of bone and flesh that cleaves through people as a hot knife through butter"
	icon = 'icons/obj/weapons.dmi'
	icon_state = "arm_blade"
	item_state = "arm_blade"
	flags = ABSTRACT | NODROP
	w_class = 5.0
	force = 25
	throwforce = 0 //Just to be on the safe side
	throw_range = 0
	throw_speed = 0
	sharpness = IS_SHARP

tl;dr 30 and 25, not 31 and 31

[Zilenan91]

Huh. Wow, okay, I'd asked admins about that in the past and they said 31. Guess we were both wrong.

[confused rock]

Neither of those things are true and they haven't been true for a little while. Space is randomised now.

Except some things are on the same z level. the dj station can be reached from the derelict because it is on the same z level. the white ship can be reached from the abandoned teleporter because it is on the same z level

[confused rock]

I think you go directly to the left from the abandoned teleporter. You may want a jetpack because I don't remember if it leads you right next to it, but it is in view if you don't move at all.

that didnt work, does anyone have a picture of the entire z level?

[Wyzack]

Its to the left and south a little bit, just grab the GPS from the science lobby before you go. The whiteship has a GPS on the bridge you can track

[confused rock]

Its to the left and south a little bit, just grab the GPS from the science lobby before you go. The whiteship has a GPS on the bridge you can track

Thanks, but still, where could I find a picture of the whole map?

[confused rock]

woah, looks like you do go straight up, but the problem is it is just barely too far to the left, so you wont hit it unless you make a few lattices to the left before going up. we were both wrong.

[Super Aggro Crag]

how do you make thrown things embed in people?

[Saegrimr]

how do you make thrown things embed in people?

By throwing really hard.

[PKPenguin321]

how do you make thrown things embed in people?

you pretty much can't unless the object is able to embed by being thrown (shurikens, spears)
other objects like rods can embed if they're thrown by an explosion/disposal pipes/pneumatic cannon

[confused rock]

how do you make thrown things embed in people?

you pretty much can't unless the object is able to embed by being thrown (shurikens, spears)
other objects like rods can embed if they're thrown by an explosion/disposal pipes/pneumatic cannon

Cant you throw GAR glasses at people and they will embed?

[Zilenan91]

You can.

[Super Aggro Crag]

ive been throwing spears and shards of glass and hatchets and never score an embed. what are the chances?

[Zilenan91]

20% for a spear from it just being thrown. It does 25 brute on throw too. I know glass imbeds, but don't know the chances. Hatchets do not imbed.

[Remie Richards]

20% for a spear from it just being thrown.

Where'd you get that number?
Spear uses the base embed chance, of 45%

[FantasticFwoosh]

how do you make thrown things embed in people?

By throwing really hard.

Is there a difference between a two handed spear throw and a one handed spear throw in terms of embed chance? (from my game experience, double handed throws seem to go further and embed more often, but that might just be RNG attributed to me.)

[Malkevin]

Why do Giga-gar glasses exist?

They were added during the dark period where Buffalo Paprika was removing all pop culture references he didn't like and Bus was happily supporting him in his madness, so a reference item to Gurren Lagann getting added during that period is weird, out of place, and a total double standard.

Then theres the fact that they're standard alternative equipment for the HoS and Captain... whilst the item looks like something that, other than in Gurren, you would only ever see in San Francisco on a bloke with a big thick mustache... who is wearing black leather assless chaps!

The double irony is that, according to Know-your-meme and Urban dictionary, the term 'gar' comes from a misspelling of the word gay - so the glasses are literally named "Gigantically Gay Glasses".

This is not a coincidence either, given the fact that Gurren Lagann is one of the most homoerrotic animes in the past ten years - which is saying something considering how faggy anime has been in that time period.


What I'm trying to say is, why does such a gay item exist and why do so many people wear them and not realise they make them look like a giant cum guzzling degenerate queer.

[Drynwyn]

Hey, some of my best friends are cum guzzling degenerate queers.

[Super Aggro Crag]

20% for a spear from it just being thrown. It does 25 brute on throw too. I know glass imbeds, but don't know the chances. Hatchets do not imbed.

hatchets should embed.

there should be a list of all embeddable objects too.

[Malkevin]

Hey, some of my best friends are cum guzzling degenerate queers.

This doesn't surprise me

[Zilenan91]

20% for a spear from it just being thrown. It does 25 brute on throw too. I know glass imbeds, but don't know the chances. Hatchets do not imbed.

hatchets should embed.

there should be a list of all embeddable objects too.

There's only four items in the whole game that can embed when thrown afaik, which is spears, glass shards, throwing stars, and eswords.

[Super Aggro Crag]

20% for a spear from it just being thrown. It does 25 brute on throw too. I know glass imbeds, but don't know the chances. Hatchets do not imbed.

hatchets should embed.

there should be a list of all embeddable objects too.

There's only four items in the whole game that can embed when thrown afaik, which is spears, glass shards, throwing stars, and eswords.

we need more

[ShadowDimentio]

What idiot throws an esword anyways

That's an 8 TC investment that can potentially miss and be used to murder you

[MMMiracles]

8 TC for a 75% chance to cause 60 brute if it embeds. They aren't going to survive if they pull it out or if it drops.

[TheNightingale]

Isn't it 60 over time, though? They might have time to take you down and then heal up - and good luck retrieving the sword when they die.

[MMMiracles]

Nope. Embed does 40 brute coupled with the throw force (which is 30), so it'd actually do 70 brute guaranteed on an unarmored target, but you'd be hitting for at least 40 if the target is heavily armored.

[PKPenguin321]

20% for a spear from it just being thrown. It does 25 brute on throw too. I know glass imbeds, but don't know the chances. Hatchets do not imbed.

hatchets should embed.

there should be a list of all embeddable objects too.

There's only four items in the whole game that can embed when thrown afaik, which is spears, glass shards, throwing stars, and eswords.

and gar glasses