Undertale

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:58 am #131197

Bottom post of the previous page:

I just had a bit of trouble with her before I got through the patterns. Now I'm bashing my head against not hurting Mettaton EX.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:59 am #131198

>getting through her patterns
>not keeping one spider donut from the ruins and eating it in front of her

With MTT EX it's simple, eating any food you bought at the hotel also increases ratings, throwing a stick at him increases ratings (once) and all else you need to do is boast and dodge like mad.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:01 am #131199

I tried to keep the donut. Then had to eat it in an emergency earlier on.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:07 am #131200

Protip: Best healing items in pacifist are bicicles.
Second-best is nice cream.

You can literally farm gold, put the donut, stick, snowman piece and ButtsPie in a box and forget about them until Muffet, Metta-EX and Asgore, respectively.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:02 am #131202

I know i actually.. Um... Went back for a specific character and such instead of simply moving on. I actually rather liked her. endearing.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:22 am #131209

These are all the special things I know about that you can do to increase your ratings in Mettaton's battle:

- Eat MTT-brand food (you'll get diminishing returns if you do this repeatedly).
- Change your clothes at any point during the battle (just use them from your inventory to equip them, I personally recommend you start the battle in some weaker clothes and swap them for your strongest outfit in the first turn).
- Throw the stick (again just use it from your inventory, incidentally you can also use the stick this way on the canine guards and on Papyrus but just for the funny message).
- Mention Mettaton's legs, hair and/or face in the essay. Mentioning Toby also seems to work, and even gets a special reaction out of him.
- Pose when your health is low.

captain sawrge · Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:23 pm

BLUNDERFAIL!!!

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Mon Nov 02, 2015 10:32 pm #131285

I can't quite put my finger on it, but something about those character designs seems off-model to me.

Spoiler:

Hornygranny · Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:39 am

>read about undermeme
>lol moralfag babbies whining about muh feelings
>play true pacifist game
>don't want to play genocide anymore
bravo kojima

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:18 pm #131377

Welcome aboard, HG. You have just become a slightly less awful person.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:41 pm #131400

DemonFiren wrote:Welcome aboard, HG. You have just become a slightly less awful person.

Its an inescapable trap. Even not playing a geno run still leaves you a bad person.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 2:57 pm #131402

ugh apparently the guy who came up with the name "genocide run" did it as part of a huge number of edgy jokes about the holocaust, he even named his character Hitler

i suppose ill just start calling it the no mercy run from now on

or perhaps the bad time run

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:00 pm #131404

Ricotez wrote:ugh apparently the guy who came up with the name "genocide run" did it as part of a huge number of edgy jokes about the holocaust, he even named his character Hitler

i suppose ill just start calling it the no mercy run from now on

or perhaps the bad time run

I don't see the problem. Its a word that accurately describes the requirements of the route.

Post by **Jacquerel** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:02 pm #131405

"No Mercy" even more accurately describes the requirements of the route, IMO.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:07 pm #131406

cedarbridge wrote:
Ricotez wrote:ugh apparently the guy who came up with the name "genocide run" did it as part of a huge number of edgy jokes about the holocaust, he even named his character Hitler

i suppose ill just start calling it the no mercy run from now on

or perhaps the bad time run
I don't see the problem. Its a word that accurately describes the requirements of the route.

its mostly the bad taste the knowledge left in my mouth, like I'm contributing to the kind of edgelord who names their character Adolf Hitler in SS13 and then tries to gas all the lizards. I just said *I* won't be using the name any more

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:16 pm #131407

Jacquerel wrote:"No Mercy" even more accurately describes the requirements of the route, IMO.

Spoiler:

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:19 pm #131408

why are we arguing about this?

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:22 pm #131410

Ricotez wrote:why are we arguing about this?

Because not everyone attaches a bad connotation to the word "argue?"

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:25 pm #131411

cedarbridge wrote:
Ricotez wrote:why are we arguing about this?
Because not everyone attaches an bad connotation to the word "argue?"

wait what?

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:28 pm #131412

Ricotez wrote:
cedarbridge wrote:
Ricotez wrote:why are we arguing about this?
Because not everyone attaches a bad connotation to the word "argue?"
wait what?

Spoiler:

You might as well ask why any conversation takes place. You stated a factoid (which we kinda take you on your word for) and then made a couple comments for and against a certain naming convention based on that information. Again, I'm not sure what the problem is here.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:46 pm #131419

why are you arguing about the word "argue" now, I thought this was about the word "genocide"? I'm not sure what the problem is either, are you just arguing for the sake of arguing now?

Post by **Jacquerel** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:52 pm #131421

I know how to trigger the no mercy route, I still think it's a better name.
You don't actually commit genocide either as some escape your wrath who you can even still peacefully converse with, and there's no particular indication of the intent for total racial extermination required for a genocide.
You're not committing a genocide you're just killing a lot of people.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:09 pm #131428

let's end this with a funny vine

https://vine.co/v/e3IlKKBOvrq

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:35 pm #131433

Reminder

DrPillzRedux · Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:36 pm

BLUNDERFAIL

Post by **Jacquerel** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 7:37 pm #131463

garbage cesspools are great places to meet girls

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:38 pm #131476

No, that's garbage dumps.

And only if those girls are lizard scientists.

ShadowDimentio · Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:34 pm

Shit quick someone make a yellow ligger scientist

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:52 pm #131492

Basil was way ahead of you, darling.

Svarta used to be one, then allegedly ERPed when ERP was unbanned, now disappeared completely and in shame.

TheWiznard · Post by **TheWiznard** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:21 pm #131502

THIS IS REAL!!

[4:18:07 PM] THEWIZNARD: [youtube]FsTzJVmFoaI[/youtube]
[4:19:15 PM] THEWIZNARD: >SKELETONS ARE DEMONIC
>HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHAT KEEPS YOUR BODY TOGETHER LADY

Skorvold · Post by **Skorvold** » Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:58 pm #131516

AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

ShadowDimentio · Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:03 pm

HOLY CHRIST

MR. SKELATAL IS ON TV

MOM GET THE CAMERA

onleavedontatme · Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:53 pm

>get the ending spoiled
>figure I may as well read more out of curiousity
>turns out theres a bunch more endings and I spoil them for myself

Whoops. Fun game though.

ShadowDimentio · Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:57 pm

PLAY THE VIDEOGAME

THE SPOILERS DON'T DUE THE CLIMAXES JUSTICE

LEARN WHAT A BAD TIME IS

LEARN WHY FLOWEY IS YOUR BEST FRIEND

LEARN THAT LIZARDS ARE SCARY SCIENTISTS

CRY AT ALL OF THE ABOVE

cedarbridge · Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:14 am

Not just a scary scientist. A really awful, scary scientist.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:23 am #131530

A scary good scientist who's as socially adept as all of us.

A scientist who really needs a hug and something vaguely rhyming with "hug".

cedarbridge · Wed Nov 04, 2015 12:28 am

DemonFiren wrote:A scary good scientist who's as socially adept as all of us.

A scientist who really needs a hug and something vaguely rhyming with "hug".

Objectively the worst character. As far as archetypes though, its rare you see a fujoshi-type this legitimately insufferable.

ThanatosRa · Post by **ThanatosRa** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:39 am #131537

I didn't mind her.

Spoiling myself didn't actually spoil myself. I was not prepared for the cuteness of the Dogs. I was able to go back and hang out with someone when otherwise I may not have bothered until afteward. I can avoid the heartbreak of a genocide run and feel Clean. I actually, literally, believe I cannot bring myself to do it. No one here deserves to die but One motherfucker.

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:48 am #131553

Honestly, Kor, I think the game has so many secrets and little surprises everywhere even if the big spoilers were spoiled, I think you can still have fun.

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:48 am #131554

ThanatosRa wrote:No one here deserves to die but One motherfucker.

You say that now. Give it time.

Cuboos · Post by **Cuboos** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:52 am #131556

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:23 am #131566

TheWiznard wrote:THIS IS REAL!!

[4:18:07 PM] THEWIZNARD: [youtube]FsTzJVmFoaI[/youtube]
[4:19:15 PM] THEWIZNARD: >SKELETONS ARE DEMONIC
>HAVE YOU EVER WONDERED WHAT KEEPS YOUR BODY TOGETHER LADY

The fucking description says it all.

People who are taught to believe in things blindly and never research or look into things scare the living shit out of me.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:38 am #131596

cedarbridge wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:A scary good scientist who's as socially adept as all of us.

A scientist who really needs a hug and something vaguely rhyming with "hug".
Objectively the worst character. As far as archetypes though, its rare you see a fujoshi-type this legitimately insufferable.

Objectively the worst, I think, is Jerry.
Next comes So Sorry.
Then a long while nothing.
Temmie is next.
Aaron, now.
Then it's almost definitely Mettaton.
Then Chara.
Then maybe, maybe Alphys.

cedarbridge · Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:13 am

DemonFiren wrote:
cedarbridge wrote:
DemonFiren wrote:A scary good scientist who's as socially adept as all of us.

A scientist who really needs a hug and something vaguely rhyming with "hug".
Objectively the worst character. As far as archetypes though, its rare you see a fujoshi-type this legitimately insufferable.
Objectively the worst, I think, is Jerry.
Next comes So Sorry.
Then a long while nothing.
Temmie is next.
Aaron, now.
Then it's almost definitely Mettaton.
Then Chara.
Then maybe, maybe Alphys.

Temmie can at least demonstrate notable development over the course of the game. Putting Chara under Alphys is heresy.

DemonFiren · Post by **DemonFiren** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:14 am #131603

>cool leg
>development
Haha, no.

And Chara can go choke on a bag of buttercups. Again.

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:19 am #131608

Spoiler:

Screemonster · Wed Nov 04, 2015 1:22 pm

Ricotez wrote:ugh apparently the guy who came up with the name "genocide run" did it as part of a huge number of edgy jokes about the holocaust, he even named his character Hitler

i suppose ill just start calling it the no mercy run from now on

or perhaps the bad time run

Nah, the creator used the term genocide run in a tweet before that guy even published his video, but the butthurt moralfag side of the internet don't let a little thing like "facts" get in the way of having a good old handwring

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 2:40 pm #131631

Screemonster wrote:Nah, the creator used the term genocide run in a tweet before that guy even published his video

you sure about this? I can't find anything

cedarbridge · Post by **cedarbridge** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:49 pm #131645

Ricotez wrote:
Screemonster wrote:Nah, the creator used the term genocide run in a tweet before that guy even published his video
you sure about this? I can't find anything

Ironically, all of the posts I'm finding are people claiming the opposite (without citing Toby anywhere, of course.) These same people wander about dumbfounded that the majority of people still use such a title when this mysterious unsubstantiated post ~somewhere~ shows Toby's approval and/or disapproval of the name. This is one of those ruses where both sides try to claim creator support for a thing and don't bother ever actually proving the creator supported it. Naturally its over something so minor even the creator doesn't care enough to give an opinion, so the factions invent one for him.

I've already said my piece. The name is apt to the conditions of the route (that there are survivors does not invalidate the definition one bit) so people will keep using it. No number of tasteless "lel hitler ammirite" youtube vids will modify that for most people.

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:52 pm #131646

I figured he just adopted the popular fan name at the time and doesn't want to be any further involved in such a stupid argument if he hasn't actually said anything about it since.

You guys are thinking too hard about this. Skip

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:55 pm #131647

look, I'm sick of this damn discussion too, it's been done to death in plenty of places and we could just find one of them and copypaste the arguments into this thread and it would be the same thing as if we actually wrote the posts from scratch because that's how fucking fandom drama tends to go: in endless circles.

I won't refer to the route as "genocide run" any more, but I don't care if other people do and I think it's stupid to judge anyone for that if their reason is "it's a good description of what the run involves". the only people I do have a problem with are those that try to defend holocaust jokes, but there hasn't been any of that in this thread yet fortunately.