Little things you learned that are game changing

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:43 am #120877

Bottom post of the previous page:

Meatspikes are stupidly robust now, if you can stun somebody for long enough to put them on or cuff them at least. Once they're on, they're restrained for two minutes (three if they're cuffed) and take tons of damage if they try to escape. Best of all, they're pretty easy to make.

Not-Dorsidarf · Thu Sep 24, 2015 1:09 pm

Luke Cox wrote:Meatspikes are stupidly robust now, if you can stun somebody for long enough to put them on or cuff them at least. Once they're on, they're restrained for two minutes (three if they're cuffed) and take tons of damage if they try to escape. Best of all, they're pretty easy to make.

Also they're permanently stuck upside down so sec can identify escapees.

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:44 pm #120997

Holy shit, you can capture somebody with O- blood, put an anesthetic tank and breath mask on them, meatrack them, and you have a blood bag a la Mad Max

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:36 pm #121022

Luke Cox wrote:Holy shit, you can capture somebody with O- blood, put an anesthetic tank and breath mask on them, meatrack them, and you have a blood bag a la Mad Max

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 12:35 am #121061

Can you throw people onto meatracks while on aggressive grab intent?

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:43 am #121106

Zilenan91 wrote:Can you throw people onto meatracks while on aggressive grab intent?

If you have a grab on them, you can put them on the meatspike just like you can monkeys. Takes 5 seconds to do, so you need to stun and/or cuff them. You can resist out of the meatspike in 2 minutes, but you take damage when you begin resisting and when you succeed. All in all, very effective way to incapacitate people.

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:53 am #121392

those things on the floor around the ai they arent prox sensors they dispense space lube

Septavius · Post by **Septavius** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:58 am #121394

tuypo1 wrote:those things on the floor around the ai they arent prox sensors they dispense space lube

*foam

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:12 am #121396

i had the feeling i would be wrong about what it was still darn handy

DeutscherMajor · Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:21 pm

If you push a supermatter shard into another supermatter shard, it just disintegrates. Now you only need to find an easy way to push an unstable one into a stable one as a SCRAM.

Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:00 pm

tuypo1 wrote:those things on the floor around the ai they arent prox sensors they dispense space lube

yeah but people wont slip if gravity is disabled or if they have magboots so don't rely on these

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:12 pm #121479

DeutscherMajor wrote:If you push a supermatter shard into another supermatter shard, it just disintegrates. Now you only need to find an easy way to push an unstable one into a stable one as a SCRAM.

Conveyor belts.

jaxy15 · Post by **jaxy15** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:07 pm #122669

Gold-slime-core headslugs let you have your very own pet changeling if you have a sentience potion and a human corpse nearby.

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 1:56 pm #122670

jaxy15 wrote:Gold-slime-core headslugs let you have your very own pet changeling if you have a sentience potion and a human corpse nearby.

I must do this.

Aloraydrel · Post by **Aloraydrel** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 3:59 pm #122683

jaxy15 wrote:Gold-slime-core headslugs let you have your very own pet changeling if you have a sentience potion and a human corpse nearby.

Well actually they turn into a monkey after the body pops with no ling abilities. Unless some admin turns the monkey into a ling via TP

jaxy15 · Post by **jaxy15** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:01 pm #122685

Aloraydrel wrote:
jaxy15 wrote:Gold-slime-core headslugs let you have your very own pet changeling if you have a sentience potion and a human corpse nearby.
Well actually they turn into a monkey after the body pops with no ling abilities. Unless some admin turns the monkey into a ling via TP

That got fixed, it works properly now.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:01 am #122740

I thought headslugs got removed from xenobio. I don't remember who it was, but I made an issue report on git about it not making headslug monkeys into lings and a coder yelled at me and closed it, saying headslugs shouldn't even be in xenobio in the first place.

Aloraydrel · Post by **Aloraydrel** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 12:21 am #122743

jaxy15 wrote:
Aloraydrel wrote:
jaxy15 wrote:Gold-slime-core headslugs let you have your very own pet changeling if you have a sentience potion and a human corpse nearby.
Well actually they turn into a monkey after the body pops with no ling abilities. Unless some admin turns the monkey into a ling via TP
That got fixed, it works properly now.

H y p e then

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:30 am #122755

Zilenan91 wrote:I thought headslugs got removed from xenobio. I don't remember who it was, but I made an issue report on git about it not making headslug monkeys into lings and a coder yelled at me and closed it, saying headslugs shouldn't even be in xenobio in the first place.

fun removal

Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:43 am

Zilenan91 wrote:I thought headslugs got removed from xenobio. I don't remember who it was, but I made an issue report on git about it not making headslug monkeys into lings and a coder yelled at me and closed it, saying headslugs shouldn't even be in xenobio in the first place.

nah they're still there iirc, just because some guy said his opinion at you doesn't mean "BIG SCARY CODER REMOVED MY FUN"

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 4:55 am #122777

He literally said that the only reason headslugs were able to be made by gold slimes is due to a bug and that he was going to remove them. I have no idea if he actually did, and also have no idea if they're still broken.

Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:05 pm

https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/11929

Fixes #9365 - headslugs spawned by admins can become changelings now.

presumably also applies to headslugs spawned via other means, such as xenobiology.

TrustyGun · Post by **TrustyGun** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:36 pm #122890

You can sneak under plastic flaps when you are in a box.

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:53 am #122944

TrustyGun wrote:You can sneak under plastic flaps when you are in a box.

that sounds like a bug

AnonymousNow · Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:53 am

Since plastic flaps are used to segregate areas for transport mediums (crates & boxes), why would that be a bug?

Ricotez · Post by **Ricotez** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 10:20 am #123009

because there are no other ways to get past flaps except for when there's a conveyor belt running under them and you lie down on it

Remie Richards · Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:30 pm

Ricotez wrote:because there are no other ways to get past flaps except for when there's a conveyor belt running under them and you lie down on it

Or you get someone else to help you under.
Or you ride a Mulebot.

Not to mention, Incoming's already confirmed he left this in deliberately, meaning it's a feature.
and as I've said on the issue discussion multiple times already, you can't do anything major with it for it to require being removed.

asskek · Post by **asskek** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:31 pm #123087

Xhuis wrote:The Syndicate surgery duffleblag, from the uplink for 4 telecrystals, has a lot of good shit. It has a complete surgery toolset, functions as a dufflebag with no slowdown, and has a Syndicate MMI, which gives the borg you put it in a Syndicate lawset and no AI link. It also has a straight jacket and a muzzle.

Wait, normal dufflebags slow you down?

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:45 pm #123091

asskek wrote:
Xhuis wrote:The Syndicate surgery duffleblag, from the uplink for 4 telecrystals, has a lot of good shit. It has a complete surgery toolset, functions as a dufflebag with no slowdown, and has a Syndicate MMI, which gives the borg you put it in a Syndicate lawset and no AI link. It also has a straight jacket and a muzzle.
Wait, normal dufflebags slow you down?

Yeah, that's why they were added. More space for less speed.

Erbbu · Post by **Erbbu** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:03 pm #123141

When upgrading cameras with plasma, apply the sheets one at a time or the camera will consume the whole stack.

AnonymousNow · Mon Oct 05, 2015 12:16 am

Erbbu wrote:When upgrading cameras with plasma, apply the sheets one at a time or the camera will consume the whole stack.

Definitely a bug.

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 1:03 am #123195

Remie Richards wrote:
Ricotez wrote:because there are no other ways to get past flaps except for when there's a conveyor belt running under them and you lie down on it
Or you get someone else to help you under.
Or you ride a Mulebot.

Not to mention, Incoming's already confirmed he left this in deliberately, meaning it's a feature.
and as I've said on the issue discussion multiple times already, you can't do anything major with it for it to require being removed.

there are already to many ways under them and easy entry where your not meant to be is a big problem

TrustyGun · Post by **TrustyGun** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:44 am #123266

The box thing is actually pretty useful, for example, if the AI locked down an entire department for some shit, you can enter in though maint using a box and fire extingusher

Not-Dorsidarf · Sun Jul 30, 2023 1:33 am

tuypo1 wrote:
Remie Richards wrote:
Ricotez wrote:because there are no other ways to get past flaps except for when there's a conveyor belt running under them and you lie down on it
Or you get someone else to help you under.
Or you ride a Mulebot.

Not to mention, Incoming's already confirmed he left this in deliberately, meaning it's a feature.
and as I've said on the issue discussion multiple times already, you can't do anything major with it for it to require being removed.
there are already to many ways under them and easy entry where your not meant to be is a big problem

It's easier to just smash a window and rush in than it is to use the box. It's just stealthier to box.

Erbbu · Post by **Erbbu** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:05 pm #123420

You can take a point blank minibomb explosion without gibbing if you are wearing the captain's space suit. You'll lose everything you had on you though and are still dead. If you are just wearing the standard captain armor/hat, you will gib.

Zilenan91 · Post by **Zilenan91** » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:51 pm #123459

Isn't bomb protection RnG, so wouldn't that mean that the caps space suit won't always prevent you being gibbed by minibombs.

Erbbu · Post by **Erbbu** » Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:08 am #123461

Each time I tried it on my own server it didn't gib the spess suited cap. But I only tried five times or so.

DeutscherMajor · Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:01 pm

The gas turbine seems to have a maxcap of how high temperatures it will accept. It turns off at 21.000k.

Saegrimr · Post by **Saegrimr** » Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:21 pm #124991

I like how being a manlet through genetics is a tactical advantage now.

Post by **lumipharon** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:15 am #125028

Being a halfling should make you move slower because of your stubby little legs.

Malkevin · Post by **Malkevin** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:22 am #125032

Everyone has also forgotten the other real advantage - your sprite has less pixels to click .

DeutscherMajor · Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:28 pm

If you climb on a Photocopier and click copy, it makes an image of your ass...

This might be old news, but the interesting thing is for what classes it works. I did it as a drone, and yes, theres an extra sprite for it.

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:02 pm #125152

is it a generic drone spirit or specific for the drone you are using.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:04 pm #125155

One thing I've picked up as HoS is to swing by RnD and ask/get them to produce me a box full of Loyalty Firing Pins and a Plasma Cutter.

Really useful when if your disarmed or someone steals a gun only to discover they can't fire it.

Bonus points for replacing the Loyalty Implants with Tracking Implants and hiding the real Loyalty Implants.

DeutscherMajor · Sun Oct 11, 2015 2:31 pm

tuypo1 wrote:is it a generic drone spirit or specific for the drone you are using.

I used the normal drone, and the image had 6 dots for the legs and a.... torso ^^, dont know if its different for the other ones.

Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:30 pm

Steelpoint wrote:One thing I've picked up as HoS is to swing by RnD and ask/get them to produce me a box full of Loyalty Firing Pins and a Plasma Cutter.

Really useful when if your disarmed or someone steals a gun only to discover they can't fire it.

Bonus points for replacing the Loyalty Implants with Tracking Implants and hiding the real Loyalty Implants.

can you spell emagrewop backwards

Luke Cox · Post by **Luke Cox** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:59 am #125289

PKPenguin321 wrote:He did something vaguely creative! Powergamer ban he!!!

Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:04 am

i actually dont like firing pins in general

Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:10 am

also, to be more on topic:
When using a bruise pack/ointment, use it on yourself multiple times, then as soon as you finish applying it once target a different area and you'll heal that area. You can do this for all six limbs at once if you're a fast enough clicker. This is good for healing multiple limbs with bruise packs/ointments really quickly instead of waiting for the entire "You start applying the bruise pack" cooldown for every single limb.

tuypo1 · Post by **tuypo1** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:59 am #125321

PKPenguin321 wrote:i actually dont like firing pins in general

few people do.

Ikarrus · Post by **Ikarrus** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:38 pm #125445

Saegrimr wrote:I like how being a manlet through genetics is a tactical advantage now.

It's Oddjob all over again.