Little things you learned that are game changing

Cheimon · Post by **Cheimon** » Fri May 23, 2014 4:29 pm #8393

Bottom post of the previous page:

AseaHeru wrote: Doorbell systems are fun.

What's a doorbell system?

Tokiko2 · Post by **Tokiko2** » Fri May 23, 2014 7:55 pm #8421

You can screwdriver air alarm panels open. There is a random wire that, when pulsed, will set all vents and scrubbers to panic syphon mode. You can even attach a signaller if atmos techs try to reset it. This is a surprisingly good way to get them arrested by security too.

You only need maint access to make single tank bombs, on any map. Get a large airtank, any igniter assembly, a wrench and a welder. Remove the air in the airtank with an airpump, then add some plasma and oxygen from the incinerator room(may need some pipe rewrenching depending on the map), add a hot gas, then attach the igniter assembly and weld a hole in the bomb. Experiment with the mix, I've seen 1,2,4 sized explosions(which is syndicate minibomb size) but I am sure you can make even bigger ones.

Syringe guns are one of the most underrated and lethal weapons on the station. A simple 15 unit lexorine or plasma syringe will kill unless the victim receives medical care. If you have more time, you can also create interesting poison mixes that crit in less than 10 seconds, or add something that stuns to the mix. Anyone with a thick suit will block syringes though.

Knaive · Post by **Knaive** » Fri May 23, 2014 8:19 pm #8423

Dangit stop giving away my atmos secrets. Next you're gonna tell people they can disable fire alarms by multitooling them too!

Neerti · Post by **Neerti** » Fri May 23, 2014 8:35 pm #8424

You can trigger fire alarms by shooting them with a projectile.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Fri May 23, 2014 8:44 pm #8425

Neerti wrote:You can trigger fire alarms by shooting them with a projectile.

Or hitting them with anything.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Fri May 23, 2014 9:51 pm #8456

Knaive wrote:Dangit stop giving away my atmos secrets. Next you're gonna tell people they can disable fire alarms by multitooling them too!

I was aware of all of these things for a while now, and once I saw the CE trying to repair Saiga's siphon hacking, I blamed it on him and said he was breaking the wires when he was trying to repair Saiga's mess. It was a good day to be a traitor.

The fire alarm disabling really should be general knowledge at this point but unfortunately nobody gives a shit about atmospherics techs with multitools until it's far too late..

DimJim · Post by **DimJim** » Sat May 24, 2014 7:15 am #8553

if an anomaly appears, scan it with an analyzer and then ping the frequency it gives you with a remote signaling device
it'll disappear and leave behind an anomaly core you can break apart for research, or attach to a signaler

i have no idea what the second one does, but it looks kind of neat when you do it

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Sat May 24, 2014 6:10 pm #8671

You can attach it to a signaler, because code-wise it has to be a child of signalers to receive the signal that turns them off.
It doesn't actually do anything, AFAIK.

ThoughtSynapsis · Sun May 25, 2014 12:42 pm

This is a lot more common information. But I feel some people may not know this.

The energy field which keeps the singularity contained extends a tile out farther then it's actual sprite. (Never mind they fixed this.)
Composite C-4 has it own detonation wire which you can attach a signaler to, Enjoy putting someone's life in your hands.
The camera bug gives you a small device you can use to moniker camera's and hack cameras with. It's more useful then you think! Okay it's still not very useful.

Also this is in no way game changing but you can upgrade the cooler's/heaters. However they don't yield too much benefit unless you are the worlds most persnickety toxins specialist.

miggles wrote:You can attach it to a signaler, because code-wise it has to be a child of signalers to receive the signal that turns them off.
It doesn't actually do anything, AFAIK.

This sounds like a job for science!

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Sun May 25, 2014 12:46 pm #8835

ThoughtSynapsis wrote: The energy field which keeps the singularity contained extends a tile out farther then it's actual sprite.

nope
this was changed

Rumia29 · Post by **Rumia29** » Thu May 29, 2014 2:00 am #9656

Apparently you can slip a pill into any reagent and it'll "dissolve" putting all the contents of said pill into the reagent.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Thu May 29, 2014 2:06 am #9657

Might seem easy to know, but if you are pulling someone/something clicking on a adjacent tile will move that object there. Useful for moving people and things into a good position.

Tokiko2 · Post by **Tokiko2** » Thu May 29, 2014 2:55 am #9661

You know those Rusian Revolvers that spawn on some maps? You can load them with revolver ammo and shoot them just like a regular revolver! However, there is a twist to this: Each time you fire, you'll spin the chamber. So while the first shot of a full revolver will always fire, the second one may not. The less bullets you have in the chamber, the lower your chance that you will actually fire a live bullet. The worst thing is that you will need to manually empty all shells, unspent or live onto the floor. Fun thing to try if you are feeling lucky.

Fuzzeldorf · Post by **Fuzzeldorf** » Thu May 29, 2014 3:04 am #9662

Wirecutters get rid of spacevines in one to two hits

Lovecraft · Post by **Lovecraft** » Thu May 29, 2014 4:25 am #9667

A silver tongue in the right ear will get you so much farther than most gameplay tips and tricks.

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Thu May 29, 2014 6:16 am #9701

Common sense and competency will get you farther than any tips or tricks will.

Psyentific · Post by **Psyentific** » Thu May 29, 2014 6:39 am #9702

The most useful question you can ask in SS13 is "How?"
Try and learn something new every round; The ability to learn is one of the most robust things there is.
As a corollary to the above, try not to make the same mistake twice. Most times you die (or lose) come back to one of two things; Either it's something you could've prevented with proper gear, skill, knowledge, or foresight, or it's something you couldn't have prevented - plain old fashioned bad luck. Minimize the former through learning, and accept the latter as inevitable and immutable.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Thu May 29, 2014 9:59 am #9714

Lovecraft wrote:A silver tongue in the right ear will get you so much farther than most gameplay tips and tricks.

erp ban he

more seriously, a silver tongue in the wrong ear (hint: powergamer's ear) will end up with your corpse floating through the infinity of space.

Kavaloosh · Post by **Kavaloosh** » Thu May 29, 2014 10:49 am #9719

why not a silver tongue in the left ear

then it's not gay

Kraso · Post by **Kraso** » Thu May 29, 2014 6:24 pm #9768

Knaive wrote:Dangit stop giving away my atmos secrets. Next you're gonna tell people they can disable fire alarms by multitooling them too!

>secrets
>open-source code

anyone with half a brain and basic psychomotor skills is able to see and understand the wizardry that is BYOND and how to use it to their benefit

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:09 pm #11640

You know those useless linen boxes in medbay and elsewhere? You can hide items in there.

Post by **Vekter** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:36 pm #11659

You can hide items in the crapper tanks

MedicInDisquise · Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:40 pm

Instead of just cutting the wires for the vault, you can just grab a toolbox, ointment, and one of them budget insulated gloves and break in from the window.

Only on box though.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:00 pm #11668

Vekter wrote:You can hide items in the crapper tanks

Why the fuck does this STILL stall nuke ops so fucking hard

Post by **Vekter** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:21 pm #11680

paprika wrote:
Vekter wrote:You can hide items in the crapper tanks
Why the fuck does this STILL stall nuke ops so fucking hard

Because nuke ops rarely if ever carry crowbars.

Rumia29 · Post by **Rumia29** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:49 pm #11689

Vekter wrote:
paprika wrote:
Vekter wrote:You can hide items in the crapper tanks
Why the fuck does this STILL stall nuke ops so fucking hard
Because nuke ops rarely if ever carry crowbars.

It's not hard to stick one in your box when gearing up. Unless you ditch the box as well.

Pandarsenic · Post by **Pandarsenic** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:03 pm #11692

every op gets a crowbar

if you ditch your fucking box...

miggles · Post by **miggles** » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:26 pm #11704

dont they spawn with them though

ExplosiveCrate · Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:08 am

And even then they're incredibly easy to find. If all else fails, blow up the toilet and go after the disk after it respawns.

Speaking of nuke ops, viscerators don't attack nuke ops. Don't know if it's tied to explosive implants, factions, or syndicate IDs. If you carry one in your pockets you can easily scare away a swarm of assistants even if you're disarmed.

Pandarsenic · Post by **Pandarsenic** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:49 am #11735

They don't spawn with pinpointers, tactical belts, jetpacks, hardsuits...

But there's a set for everyone on the shuttle

Take the gear

Take the necessary gear you whores it's given to you in a locker for your convenience

And yeah I have no idea what's up with Viscerators but you can have each member of the team drag one for a free win.

AseaHeru · Post by **AseaHeru** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 12:21 pm #11817

If you mean the grenades of them, well, that makes sense, dosent it.

Post by **Vekter** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:46 pm #11856

Roller beds and ride extinguishers. Try it some time.

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 3:56 pm #11865

viscerators not attacking ops is a feature, it's connected to the faction var so i guess you could meta it.

Xhuis · Post by **Xhuis** » Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:20 pm #11886

Engineer who needs to set up the singulo? No CE or AI to open secure storage? Use the nearby APC to turn off equipment power and crowbar open the blast doors.

Tokiko2 · Post by **Tokiko2** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 7:58 am #12822

You can get kudzu by injecting atleast 5u of mutagen into an empty but weed infested plant tray. Pouring sugar into plant trays raises the weed and pest levels quickly! If you get lucky, you can get kudzu 5 minutes into the round.

ExplosiveCrate · Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:04 am

Adding on to that: You can mutate kudzu to get even deadlier versions of kudzu! Some of them eat oxygen, some eat plasma, some strangle people to death.

And there was a strain that gibbed dead corpses, but I'm pretty sure it got removed.

paprika · Post by **paprika** » Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:51 am #12852

It still exists, and it eats corpses still, but it doesn't gib live people like it used to, that was a bug.

Facundo · Post by **Facundo** » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:47 pm #13244

Kudzu pods produce antitoxin when grinded.

ShadowDimentio · Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:02 am

Ever since the botany update, botanists have become fear incarnate.

One kudzu plant can produce enough kudzu seeds to infest the entire station, virtually guaranteeing a shuttle call. Try it sometime as tator.

100 potency death nettles are the single best melee weapon in the game in raw damage. It does 50 burn per hit (nearly twice as good as a esword)-- two good hits will crit anyone not wearing armor. Pair this with a vicious stun rate, and the fact that they can't be used against you if the person disarms you unless they have leather/insulated gloves, and you'd better be praying that the hippies weed isn't touched.

Poppies have bicardine in them, and lots of it. Grow them and chomp down during fights for quick healing.

Green grapes (mutated grapes) grow something that fixes burn damage. Pretty sure it's kelotane.

Space tobacco grows dexalin. You have to dry out the leaves first, though.

Ambrosia deux contains a metric fuckton of good medicine, but also contains the only drug you can overdose on-- synapzine. Do not consume if at all possible, the synapzine will fuck you sideways with a spiky dildo.

A clever botanist can become a ghetto changeling with some preparation.

Keep whacking someone with the death nettle after they die and they'll get husked. Basically giving a hearty 'fuck you' to the geneticists, and likely making people assume there are lings.

If a plant's pest level is above 5 and the plant experiences a certain kind of reaction when injected with mutagen, babby spiderlings spawn. The crew will 99.99% of the time assume there are lings. Use this to your advantage. (Extra bonus points if paired with husks)

Ice chilis contain frost oil. It's the same stuff lings inject into people to freeze them, and has a 99.99% success rate, since only the most diehard of metagamers carry around coffee (the only real way to warm yourself up quickly) in the event of something like this. Put it on food to make a bunch of people really miserable.

High dosages of frost oil freeze the shit out of you, and you know what medicine works well in cold environments? Cryox and clonex. Get creative.

Death angels contain a very, VERY deadly poison. Shit fucks you sideways with toxin damage if you don't get to medbay. Combine with high dosage of frost oil and a hatchet for a very quick kill.

Blue tomatoes grow lube. Fuck bananas, give these to the clown.

On the topic of bananas, there are really only two kinds of note. Microbananas, that slip you only for a moment but are a bitch to see, and huge manbananas, which are conspicuous as fuck, but knock you on your ass for ages. Grow a little of both and stack their peels one with another to make the crew infinitely mad.

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:24 am #13301

ShadowDimentio wrote:100 potency death nettles are the single best melee weapon in the game in raw damage. It does 50 burn per hit (nearly twice as good as a esword)-- two good hits will crit anyone not wearing armor. Pair this with a vicious stun rate, and the fact that they can't be used against you if the person disarms you unless they have leather/insulated gloves, and you'd better be praying that the hippies weed isn't touched.

The best part about death nettles is that they disappear once they're used up, i.e. instantly self-destructing evidence. More botany fun:

- Soybeans can be mutated into koibeans, which contain carpotoxin, the main ingredient in zombie powder aka parapen juice. The other main ingredient is sleep toxin, which is in reishi, and copper, which requires chemistry (but no one will bitch at you for asking for copper.) If you can pull it off, have fun with that.

- Bluespace tomatoes teleport shit you throw them at. Honk.

- If botany is too lazy to grow poppies Metastation has some in the chapel.

Kavaloosh · Post by **Kavaloosh** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:28 am #13316

the energy axe does 110 damage, but that's beside the point since you can't acquire it

Kraso · Post by **Kraso** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:52 pm #13317

Machine tea not only heals toxins, but it also removes dizziness, jitteryness, drowsyness, sleepiness and heats you up just like coffee, iced tea does all but heal jitteryness and cools you down. Ground tea, however, does nothing at all.

Hacked borg beer works like old chloral.

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:19 pm #13324

ShadowDimentio wrote: Ambrosia deux contains a metric fuckton of good medicine, but also contains the only drug you can overdose on-- synapzine. Do not consume if at all possible, the synapzine will fuck you sideways with a spiky dildo.

Synaptizine makes you near immune to any form of crowd control tho.
Take Ambrosia Deus and some anti tox and you've got yourself an unstunnable and fast healing spaceman.
Also most people seem to not know about this:
http://tgstation13.org/wiki/Guide_to_plants

TheTerbs · Post by **TheTerbs** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:46 pm #13333

GHOST CHILLIS ARE STILL IN

FUCK YEAH I LIVE ON

ColonicAcid · Post by **ColonicAcid** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:47 pm #13334

Yes, they're deadly as shit
100 potency ghost chillis can instacrit you im pretty sure.

TheTerbs · Post by **TheTerbs** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 2:52 pm #13336

ColonicAcid wrote:Yes, they're deadly as shit
100 potency ghost chillis can instacrit you im pretty sure.

You have no idea how happy this makes me, almost as much as the telesci pug or the ice cream machine

Lo6a4evskiy · Post by **Lo6a4evskiy** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:12 pm #13349

Damn, I gotta learn proper botany

Do kudzu pods grow into kudzu? If so, how do I make them? :S

Miauw · Post by **Miauw** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:40 pm #13352

husking people through burn damage still makes them cloneable iirc

Steelpoint · Post by **Steelpoint** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:44 pm #13353

Miauw wrote:husking people through burn damage still makes them cloneable iirc

Yeah, its weird how many MD's/Genetcists see a husked corpse and just out right state that its unclonable. Could have just been a victim of laser fire.

Speaking of cloning, if you do get a husked changeling victim there is a way to clone them.

What you do is you remove their brain, get a humanized monkey, get rid of the humanmonkey's brain and jam the victims brain in the body, then clone the body. Tadah! Only downside is the victim inherits the random humanized monkey's name and appearance.

Durkel · Post by **Durkel** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:20 pm #13358

I hate to be a downer here but botany isn't nearly as strong as you would believe.

Ghost chilies do not instantly crit someone, they have condensed capsaicin. Which although strong, is not fast acting.

100 potency death nettle is 32 burn per hit.

Destroying angels are currently bugged and do fuck all.

That and the amount of rng fuck you that you need to muddle through is assblast levels of insane.

Botany is a great department that has a lot of potential, but don't hype it that much.

Oh, and glow berries have uranium in them. Grind them up and add iron for a emp. Honk

bandit · Post by **bandit** » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:40 pm #13361

Durkel wrote:100 potency death nettle is 32 burn per hit.

Not quite. I think it might start out at 35, but it decreases with every hit as the nettle loses leaves. The dropoff is still enough to crit someone pretty fast, particularly with knockdown.