[NikNakFlak] Sackomatick Refusing to Co-operate

[sackomatick]

Byond account and character name: Sackomatick - Kolton Milne

Banning admin: NikNakFlak

Permaban - Bagil

Ban Reason and Length: Reason: Metacommunications with Cookiemom and FloodedToilet. Any form of out of game communication is not tolerated on the server regardless of intent.

Time Ban was placed 12:20(ish) EST

Your side of the story: Me and a friend were playing, at the start of the we decide to go to the bar to get a drink to quench our mighty thirst. The Bartender says to clean the vomit in the bar before we can have our thirsts quenched. We gather our supplies to do so and we head back to the bar to complete our quest. When out of no where some sort of magic is performed and a portal is blinked in to existence. We cross the thresh hold of the pagan devil magic and are thrust head fist in to a wall we fear the worst for our cart as it is on the other side of a secure door. We retrieve our noble steed and begin the long journey back to the bar to defeat the vile DRIED VOMIT. When we we betrayed by the very man that set us out to complete the impossible task, Caroiline Ace. I have been shot and our cart stolen and forced to voyage across the endless vacuum of the stars. I go to confront the urchin that separated us from our cart, an altercation ensues. I will admit that it is I Kolton Milne that cast the first blow. I am not angered at the thought of defending ones self. But i am upset that the Gods cast deaf ears upon my cries for justice, my cries for VENGEANCE.

Why you think should be unbanned: Communication began with ADMIN NikNakFlak and said that i was meta-communicating. But i was in fact communication in IC. As i said in the beginning of this tale we both decided to go to the bar. We both asked for a drink. We both were told to clean first, and we both set out to complete the given task. Then our cart was stolen and we both went to get it back.

We both communicated in IC with the bartender as well as when we were stuck in a wall. Saying that we did not communicate in game is just wrong, because we did not respond with "Okay" when we were told to clean is just silly. I was beaten to death and revived and spent the remainder of the round speaking with ADMIN NikNakFlak who would not tell me when i was metacommunicating but just came to the decision as if he had some sort of Sorcerers crystal ball. I as well as one of my friends we permabanned.

[NikNakFlak]

I already told you that I don't care about what happened between you and the bartender. Gamarr and I watched you guys wordlessly follow each other for awhile until you died, and then your third friend followed your other friend around for awhile before I banned both of you, followed by the last guy at a later time. It's so obvious that you guys were doing it that denying it is simply not going to fly. Pretty much the only time you guys bothered to talk is when it wasn't to each other, even going in the same direction each time when you would get separated, always managing to find each other again no matter what happened.

[Saegrimr]

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Rules

If you read them, it clearly states in rules 5 and 6 that metacomms in any way will be met with a permaban. You have nobody to blame but yourselves.

[sackomatick]

Why would 2 characters have to speak to ach other when told what to do. In the contwxt of what happend why would we both have ro speak to each other. So because we did not say, hey pal lets go do our jobs we get permabanned? From and rp stand point that is just ridicules.

I understand you dont care about what i feel is inapropreate excalation of an IC issue. We get permabanned because we tried to clean? What form of in game advantage would that have givin us. What tools do janitors have at their disposal could have been used to have any kind of advantage over an armed and armored player.

As i understand it we got banned for aying as janotors and deciding to clean and and asking, hey were is the janitors closet out of game we are all of a sudden red flagged.

[NikNakFlak]

First of all, your english is so broken, it is very difficult to read.
Secondly, Do you even read my posts?

5. IC information should be kept out of OOC channels and vice-versa. (IE: do not talk about the current round outside of IC communication methods, and do not break the fourth wall in the round.)
Doing this privately (steam/IRL/skype) will generally lead to immediate permabans for all involved parties. Especially when used to gain an in game advantage
Using information in game acquired via out of game communication methods(metacommunication) will lead to an immediate permaban for all communicating parties.

This is the only reason you were permabanned, that's it.

[sackomatick]

Firsy off my english is fine, auto correct is whats broken. So ots exactly what i said, because we did bot type lets go find the janitors closet in in-game chat we were banned. If thats the case then you are just creatimg an extreamly toxic community of over zealous and over reactive admins.

[Saegrimr]

Again, if you read the rules you would know exactly what the punishment would be. There is nothing overzealous here, its a binary situation. You read the rules before joining the server, right?

[Ahammer18]

Rule 5 is arguably our most important rule because it upsets the balance of the game, giving communicating parties an unfair advantage. This is a zero tolerance rule, regardless of the level of communication, if you are found to be guilty of it, you will be permabanned. All of this is covered in our rules page, and you have only yourself to blame for not reading it first.

[NikNakFlak]

knock it off with the policy discussion shit. It's simple, if you don't want a ban, read the damn rules.

[Vekter]

The banned party hasn't replied in 14 days. I'm assuming he doesn't care anymore.

PM me if this needs to be reopened.