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said this in adminbus but it's only fair to say it here, I'm recusing myself from this, for unrelated reasons

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Note, though, that the "making it more flashy/noticeable" part was done by Atlanta-Ned, an admin:

https://tgstation13.org/wiki//index.php ... ldid=24345

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More precedent:

1. Ausops, a former headmin, upholding a ban for suiciding into the supermatter; the thread is about a drone, but Ausops' reply is not specific to drone laws, but rather states that "it was about griefing engineering." It also does not involve whether the SM delaminated or not, but ...

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For those who still don't believe me that this has always been a bannable offense, here is Kor saying as much in 2017: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic ... sm#p290067

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Suiciding into the SM has many detrimental effects both on the supermatter integrity and everyone around it: https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/blob/5904156485c28977047c8f38c91f60ca2ad4e1b6/code/modules/power/supermatter/supermatter.dm#L865

So, instead of trying to min-max the exact amount of ...

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Denied, it has been a bannable offense (and this isn't even a ban, it's just a note) to suicide into the SM for as long as we have had the SM. If you want to leave the round, there are many ways to do that not involving sabotage and potentially fucking up the round for everyone else.

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please do not do this cringe

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imagine posting this and thinking it was a good idea

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I remember hearing about a guy whose gimmick was to play ash-walker just to sneak onto the station as an undocumented immigrant janitor. I thought it was pretty hilarious and almost tempted me to try doing just that.

Banning friendly lizards is pretty dumb unless they're specifically working ...

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The image above demonstrates this, but just to make it extra clear: If Exavere was reacting to the shuttle, that would mean he responded in four seconds (19:51:09 to 19:51:13), factoring in lag and everything else. It should be pretty clear how exceedingly unlikely that is.

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Also as a point of clarification: "I've always used this name and no one had a problem until now" is not a defense against naming policy. The policy has changed a lot over the years, and also has not been enforced as consistently as it could or should be. However, this specific name falls well ...

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Speaking as an admin here, as invited:

I think this is fine. Naming policy has been quoted here, but the parts that have been emphasized miss the forest for the trees. A more accurate emphasis would be this:

Excessively OOC names fall under rule 3. Make a minimum effort to have your name fit in a ...

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fixed the poll for you

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>you will never be able to use the smelter on the mining station

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As a further generalization of this, are humans who have undergone cat tail and ears surgery late into the round human?
The AI couldn't reasonably tell they're human so I'd say treat them as nonhuman even though they're really human. It's unreasonable to demand the AI health analyze every felinid ...

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heart emoji is a person

Spoiler:

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trollbreeder wrote:
NoxVS wrote:
RaveRadbury wrote:
terranaut wrote:
cybersaber101 wrote:
bandit wrote:
terranaut wrote:you didnt add heart emoji you slut

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terranaut wrote:you didnt add heart emoji you slut

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Flatulent wrote:remind me why syndicate mini bombs exist again if we are buffing c4 to be a slightly weaker minibomb but a lot less expensive

C4 always used to destroy doors, this was almost definitely an oversight with explosion code somewhere down the line

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how soon people forget heart emoji

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waiting for this to be resolved first

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Some of the smite options, IMO, were coded in without considering the side effects that are overly arduous to fix because of how medical works. This one, but also brain damage producing traumas. Which is more a code issue, I think.

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...and continue to apologize for the death squad.
But not for using said death squad to kill everyone. You apologize for the action but not what resulted from it.
Savvy?

I assumed that was implied by there being a death squad, since a death squad always does that.

But if it needs to be ...

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Also, on a different note, I am happy to give antag tokens to anybody who was an antag in that round and would like one. The reason I hadn't done this previously is because I was under the impression it was a headmin call when it involved a complaint. I've since been told that it isn't ...

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I'm not sure what else can be done when I have already apologized, reiterated my apology, and then am accused of not having apologized.

Not to mention the implication that the death squad (which I have apologized for) was the result of "being a salty nerd over not being invited" to mass grief, as ...

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I have apologized for the specific choice of a death squad, and stand by that.

You BSA'd me for actions of others. (You used a deathsquad to do it.)
I was not involved nor i will become involved in any other capacity no matter how much you explain it.
Nor will any of your explanations change that ...

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The OP is presenting tide as fun for all, but that isn't the case. In these """wow haha so funny break things""" situations there are bound to be a fair few people who did not enjoy their time due to some random greyshits setting out to make their life harder. Sure, its just a game, some times ...

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I have apologized for the specific choice of a death squad, and stand by that.

I am not going to apologize for calling mass graytide, shitting up OOC and then continuing to shit up other venues once it is muted, etc., against the rules, even if that means people don't get to "have fun."

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Reeeee wrote:Also say sowwy so i can move on.

Apparently you don't know how to read. I apologize that you were never taught this.

Also, it doesn't matter how "fun" mass tide is, it is still against the rules, and always has been.

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In that case I apologize, I didn't look at individual objectives, just the roundtype. (For what it's worth lings aren't really a "team antag" in the sense I meant it, but that's a bit beside the point.)

I feel like it's less that and more that you're essentially rewarding griffons (I realize this ...

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In that case I apologize, I didn't look at individual objectives, just the roundtype. (For what it's worth lings aren't really a "team antag" in the sense I meant it, but that's a bit beside the point.)

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I've said basically everything I have to say about this. However, some clarifying notes:

The checking antags was to check the round type before spawning a death squad, to make sure that there was not an ongoing team mode such as rev, cult, nuke ops, etc. (The level of grief seemed consistent with a ...

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in general I don't understand why we have to remove any maps at all, are we running out of space or something

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ITT: people who don't understand the difference between probable cause, reasonable suspicion, and random searches

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messages also overlap with one another if two+ mobs are on the same square

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suicide_hopline.wmv

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Your muscles begin to painfully tighten.

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people are misunderstanding the point of the thread, I frequently tell people no, but it's also a bit disingenuous to be like "sure! TC trade all you want it's fine, the admins don't mind!" when they do

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the objective does mention something like "use safety equipment" but doesn't spell out to RTFM, I guess I can change it if we ever get github back

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OK, unbanned since these are exceptional world circumstances, but in general, in the future (this goes for you and anyone else) if you say "no possibility of unban" you have to be prepared for there being no possibility of unban.

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Just want to clarify something. The specific request you made was:

Ticket #2: Cursedboi/(William Straub) (?) (PP) (VV) (SM) (FLW) (TP) (LOGS) (SMITE) (REJT) (IC) (CLOSE) (RSLVE): yo could you permaban me with no possibility of unban? Im too addicted its pretty bad for me

Has something changed ...

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I'm the one who wrote the instructions, I don't mean this in a rude way but which part of it isn't clear enough?

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I think a key factor here is metagrudging on OOC vs. IC character.

VERY BAD, DON'T DO THIS: "I killed you because you're bandit, my least favorite admin who banned me once."
BAD, BUT NOT AS BAD: "You're Fortune Ray and you arrested me once so I'm going to punch you whenever I see you."

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Contrary to what people probably think, I don't hate the idea of TC trades. But they should ideally be something that makes the round more interesting for everyone , not just the traitor, and creates a situation that otherwise not might happen. Ideally they should also be explainable IC if it's ...

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I don't know if anyone's said this but it is absolutely false that admins can post in threads without repercussions or adherence to the rule, I have had posts deleted and so have other admins.

EDIT: if this is about goof then that thread is actually a very good example of admin posts being deleted

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PKPenguin321 wrote:if we do ban this word, I can see us having organized raids like with goonstation dedicated to bypassing the word filter and making our more vulnerable admins shit and piss themselves

then permaban those people, raids are already a bannable offense, how is this a serious objection

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the primary problem with the economy was the paycheck was job/department-based, not individual-based, which cut out the whole potential of it (including potentially giving the HoP an actual job in adjusting pay)

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does this mean we can go back to all gray assistants

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genuinely cares about doing the right thing and improving if needed, refreshing to see tbh

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Regardless of one's views on racial slurs, the more important point here is that there is not and, to my knowledge, never has been any ruling saying that an admin cannot mute OOC. Admins can mute OOC for whatever reason they want to. Making an admin complaint over muting OOC is beyond asinine.

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