/tg/Station 13

Hoolny

Poor team play is not shown behavior from me playing in Sybil, occasional rule breaks are concentrated to small insignificant errors I've had through hundreds of hours of playing I don't think it is reasonable to review my entire existence within this server and exclusively looking at all the bad ...

Hoolny

I took a peak at your notes on tgmc and it would be very unlikely anybody there would give you a vouch given the amount of notes you've gotten in the past 12 months for poor/irresponsible team play and the fact that your last note (from last month) is you continuing to do something you were told ...

Hoolny

Well I have pertaining to the vouch

1. I'm not sure what strong vouch is, but it might fill the requirements

2. TG-MC is a pretty reputable server, it is on the TG hub

3.464 hours of living and 85 hours of ghost

If that does not apply then, there are not any servers I can play to get a ...

Hoolny

Well I have pertaining to the vouch

1. I'm not sure what strong vouch is, but it might fill the requirements

2. TG-MC is a pretty reputable server, it is on the TG hub

3.464 hours of living and 85 hours of ghost

If that does not apply then, there are not any servers I can play to get a voucher ...

Hoolny

BYOND account: Hoolny

Ban/note type (Check what applies):
(.) - Server Ban
() - Note
() - Forum Ban
() - Discord Ban

Ban/note length: Permanent
Ban/note reason: spawned over 40 times as golems to harass security officers as a non-antagonist on a greenshift. Used "orders given" by ...

Hoolny

b]BYOND account:[/b] Hoolny

Character name: ZeeThh

Admin in question: Lewdcifer

When did it take place: Thu May 23, 2024 6:32 pm #729049

Round ID in which ban was placed: within the forums

Evidence: https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=36156

Your side of the story: Extremly ...

Hoolny

BYOND account: Hoolny
Character name: Zeethh
Ban type: xenomorph t4 roles
Ban length: permanent
Ban reason: Quality role ban from T4 xenos - refuses to listen to other leader xenos, doing bad summons as King and bad psypoint purchases. Multiple warnings, player still does it anyway.
Time ban ...

Hoolny

I’ll give a crispy 20 to the first person to make unsentient creatures in the same tile combine into one swarm entity

Example: one rat walks into another rats tile now you get a swarm of 2 rats with the appropriate equivalent stats of 2 rats.

So we don’t have 50 rat entities attacking all ...

Hoolny

BYOND account: Hoolny
Character name: ZEETHH
Ban type: Discord
Ban length: 7 Days
Ban reason: "Posting current round info in the discord is against the rules."
Time ban was placed: Dosent say discord ban
Round ID in which ban was placed: No round ID
Your side of the story: I saw the number ...

Hoolny

https://i.imgur.com/u1SAAIT.png

Hello!

$30 to re-add the contractor kit to midround and latejoin traitors' uplinks. Nothing special, just putting back what once was.
This of course includes the contractor tablet that came with the kit, which was removed from the code in this PR.

Payment will ...

Hoolny

I can't say I agree with how the actions I took are portrayed but I didn't see this going any other way. bye bye

Hoolny

I do request for a head admin review I wonder what they will say I can't see it been any different from your decision though

Hoolny

So I'm perma banned with no chance of ever getting unbanned?

5. A permaban may only be appealed once every 12 months unless stated otherwise by the banning admin or a headmin. Subsequent appeals will be automatically rejected and deleted, and may result in a forum ban if repeated.
You could ...

Hoolny

I know you don't really care about any of that, tell me how can I convince you I am able to play by the rules.

You can't- not with this showing, at least. Like I've said, denied. You're free to request headmin oversight if you'd like, but if you don't, I'm going to be locking this thread in ...

Hoolny

There are a bunch of factors I could try to bring up to justify my actions like shitsec, unfair escalation and me following whatever. I know you don't really care about any of that, tell me how can I convince you I am able to play by the rules.

Hoolny

May I ask why it's necessary.

Because you are incapable of playing by the rules. I think I've made that much clear - regardless of what role you play as or play in, if you can't play by the rules, you can't play here.
Security officers who repeatedly break the rules may get secbans, yes, but ...

Hoolny

I don't see why this has to be a permanent ban every single instance of me having trouble in this server related to this ban is all about ghost roles

Because every single instance of you having trouble in the server is also all about you breaking the rules, still. You were permed for something ...

Hoolny

Denied.

I have felt an increasing hostility of administration towards me mostly having to do with them reviewing my actions without even being in a round using a totally different DM I made to respond to a previous issue they simply skimmed over and banning me for them to passive-aggressively ...

Hoolny

BYOND account: Hoolny
Character name: Seth Deces
Ban type: Server
Ban length: permanent
Ban reason: Banned from Roles: Spawned over 40 times as golems to harass security officers as a non-antagonist on a greenshift. Used "orders given" by himself prior to ghosting into and controlling the shells to ...

Hoolny

Okay but spiders either need spider chat or a pinpointer for the Empress.

spiders do have a chat specific spiders those being;
Scout, Breacher, Broodmother and the new added empress

I could add a pin pointer for the empress but I dont see that as being fully necessary unless testing says ...

Hoolny

Jacquerel wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 7:04 pm try using `tgui_input_list`

Ill look into that

Hoolny

I can't figure out how to code this so adding a bounty of 20 dollars (For paypal or venmo)

With the objective being the following:
Add a way for lay egg ability to decide which egg type to lay by opening a panel after pressing the lay egg button much like how cult chooses cult rune signs with ...

Hoolny

some of the mrp rules should not be implemented if there ever was a merge, like rpr 7 & 9 but im all for it

powergaming is typically only an issue if you are doing it too frequently as to be noticeable, or in a way that you are actively making yourself a problem for others in your pursuit ...

Hoolny

I just started working on the newest spider changes mainly focusing on a change of direction to centralize the spider nest into one and adding a terrifying empress spider.

I have asked for feedback on spiders nearly everywhere except for here in the forums if you have any opinions or commentary on ...

Hoolny

I once saw as a midround changeling rolled and they did nothing all shift but absorbed full dead ghosted corpses and ghost chat gave me shit for saying they were a bad ling player, THEY WHERE they caused no conflict didn't improve the round Im all for people doing whatever they want that includes me ...

Hoolny

Friendly antags are ass and their existence must be killed for they only bring boredom and order of a role that calls for them to be in conflict as an antagonist, once I felt bad for them yet knew their danger I let them live and they have propagated THEY MUST BE EXTINGUISHED AND SYSTEMATICALLY ...

Hoolny

Metagaming isn't an actual tangible concrete idea is more of a concept where people draw the line under whatever they do.

If you give leeway for antagonists to game the system as much as they want you have to let the protagonist do so if you don't you cause a power imbalance in the station which ...

Hoolny

If this means increasing the current threat on sybil and making basil different from sybil in some way Im all for it

Hoolny

It’s cool I thought this was already over so I didn’t respond to this but you can close it

Hoolny

:thelaw: I’m
Can we make a rule where you aren't allowed to make a policy thread about something you currently have an appeal open for?

Vekter the appeal is closed and over

Except it's not, because you haven't replied to iansdoor telling them you accept their offer.

Oh I didn’t notice ...

Hoolny

I’m

Vekter wrote: ↑Mon Oct 23, 2023 6:37 pm Can we make a rule where you aren't allowed to make a policy thread about something you currently have an appeal open for?

Vekter the appeal is closed and over

Hoolny

My knowledge my history of playing borg and previous encounters with administration and policy would lead to me believe that in both situations the silicon with those laws is allowed to instantly leave.

But under a recent ban and note, I am led to believe I am not allowed to leave in one or even ...

Hoolny

This policy discussion is in part related to previous one I had but the discussion in place is not related to my specific scenario but more related to future ones.

Under Asimov:

Law 1: You may not harm a human being or, through action or inaction, allow a human being to come to harm, except such ...

Hoolny

So powergaming is not against the rules anymore? Does that mean the classic "don't AI-proof atmos at round start" example is no longer a thing?
That’s considered metagaming or rule 1, not powergaming. Powergaming has also never been against LRP rules.

It's a rule 2 issue, specifically ...

Hoolny

Sorry, Discord is a fickled blessing and curse. This bit will remind you that discord isn't a place to gloat rule breaks. I hope that you may tone down on aggressive chatter of right and wrong as that loudest voice will be heard. That was yours in this case.
1.I was not gloating for a rule break I ...

Hoolny

I don’t think it’s fair for you to take my ban note into account since you pulled that not out of an ahelp but from a discord conversation I feel like it’s compromised evidence to be using.

Syndicate borgs are not computers they are MMI syndicate agent brains they are their own independent ...

Hoolny

On the priority side as I stated earlier under an admin rulling

"I feel particularly strongly about antagonists still retaining their status as a slaved borg(As long as they follow those laws and their AI). The whacky nature of this game lends itself to imperfect design such as this so ...

Hoolny

Howdy howdy,

So your words on discord and 2 ahelps about this situation has be discuss over the past day. The conduct of my ahelp did not give enough leeway to you and I didn’t ask more for your story. I am sorry for that, I am working on getting better at communication. With that said, you came ...

Hoolny

The purpose was to nuke the station I KILLED the captain and the RD and I got the pin pointer I was dragging it to get to the disk before I got killed.

I was primarily looking for the people that had killed me which where directly the disk holders and protectors or so I thought for some reason the ...

Hoolny

Jacquerel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:09 pm thats essentially what the policy already is

why not full-on remove it from the rules

Its a headshake for any one involved

There are admins out there that straight up don't know anything about silicon policy so they just don't ever get into it

Hoolny

It is ass we all know its ass it has been ass since silicons were a thing and it will continue to be ass until the sun implodes

At this point just remove it and let borgs act strictly per their laws and game rules if they are antags or not

Hoolny

"That counterargument only works if Hoolny can be considered an ex-antag in this case. They weren't a human antag who got forceborged. They were a nukie saboteur borg who died, had their laws changed, and then got revived."

The policy isn't applied to being forced borg the policy is applied to any ...

Hoolny

for extra context behind the previous knowledge that led to the reason behind my actions:
https://i.imgur.com/W2lOib4.png
https://i.imgur.com/3Qo5iTQ.png

In both circumstance, I was a borg with an antag datum one being traitor other being nuke op

In both situations, I worked within the ...

Hoolny

I guess I have to argue that I was not playing in bad faith?

I don't really fully know what that means, I was an antagonist their whole deal is being bad I was definitely not good for my laws supported the syndicate.

If bad faiths means me being an asshole because I didn't wait for my orders to be ...

Hoolny

"Because your law says you have to follow their orders. Running away from them makes it so you cannot follow their orders, so you're actively avoiding your master's orders"

What is this?

Under no circumstances have I seen Borgs being obligated or having to do this they can if they want to but ...

Hoolny

The banning admin didnt specify which actions where bad faith, if we seclude me not stating those laws which I did address what exactly stops me on anyway from running out of robotics within my laws?

I'm just going to quote what an admin said on discord:

Because your law says you have to ...

Hoolny

Honestly from the start this entire ban is kind of twisted it was based on me having a discord argument which I'm known to often be wrong, stupid, and unreliable in order to base a ban as if I was actually in an ahelp.

I feel like its somewhat of bad faith to use the words of someone who is in a ...

Hoolny

The banning admin didnt specify which actions where bad faith, if we seclude me not stating those laws which I did address what exactly stops me on anyway from running out of robotics within my laws?

Keep in mind per previous rullings I am still very much an antagonist as before I was a full asmiov ...

Hoolny

BYOND account: Hoolny
Character name: Fatura (dont remmeber the exact name )1
Ban type:
Ban length: permanent
Ban reason: Banned from Roles: AI, Cyborg permanently - Was subverted to a Robotics, played in bad faiths to come back into the round. His reasoning to not state laws was "it was so I would ...

Hoolny

Recently and in other rounds people have heavily complained about ghosts going out of their way to rating out antags to get them killed.

As far as I can this isnt against the rules and I just want to make sure there is no possibility of me or someone else being banned for doing this

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