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The_Silver_Nuke

Well my suggestion for playtime was ultimately an attempt at a compromise. We don't necessarily have to do it. Adding a significantly lower player cap to Manuel and making Bagil MRP should be sufficient in that case for the purposes of both acquiring data on player behavior and opening up ...

The_Silver_Nuke

I somewhat agree with changing the purpose of Bagil, if only for the data. If Bagil is turned into a MRP server and people still max out Manuel, then that would mean that a good chunk of the playerbase who insist on playing on Manuel despite there being a viable alternative are simply pop chasing ...

The_Silver_Nuke

I propose we bring ballistics back. Ballistics are based

The_Silver_Nuke

Huge agree. Especially if you are incapable of owning money like some kind of baddie then you're screwed out of one side of the shuttle. At least the Raven shuttle with all the turrets isn't entirely impenetrable. Plus, spamming one particular shuttle round after round after round has in the end ...

The_Silver_Nuke

If you throw out all the tens and ones (because mostly dummies vote ten or one), the data actually becomes interesting and useful.

I agree. Personally I feel that people voted a bit more meaningfully then we would get a more accurate representation of the current map pool.

But for fun I went ...

The_Silver_Nuke

cacogen wrote: ↑Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:00 pm you know if it becomes untenable to play assistant i'm just picking station engineer and doing absolutely fucking nothing all shift

cringe

The_Silver_Nuke

>game of tower fortress where everyone duels with construction systems

Clock cult

The_Silver_Nuke

Yeah, I actually wonder what the stats are for crew demographics. I want to say that every other person is nonhuman, but I might be off about that. Ultimately it might end up looking like 50-50 hunters to the other castes. As far as monkeys are concerned it's primarily the source of xenos early on ...

The_Silver_Nuke

Apparently Discord really liked the idea of different xeno types based on species, because according to Aliens lore they did create different types based on their host after all. Originally I was just thinking Sentient vs Non-Sentient but then I came up with this list:

Humans = Hunters/Tanks ...

The_Silver_Nuke

I've been playing around with some ideas for how a xeno rebalance might look. I'm not totally set on reworking it completely, but some minor tweaks would be cool. This is what I've come up with:

*Required*

-Neurotoxin spit applies acid debuff with ticking stamina loss until resisted/wears off ...

The_Silver_Nuke

I'd only be okay with this if it was added as an additional gamemode, because I don't think it's worthy to replace regular wizard (not that it needs replacing, the role is fine as is)

Just split them off into two, one is a grandmaster wizard and the other is like, newly awakened

The_Silver_Nuke

No it actually straight got deflected. I'll file a bug report then because it sounds unintentional.

-Edit- I am dumb. Just, so dumb. Anyway I reviewed the logs just to double check before I submitted a bug report and I was using a normal syringe instead of a piercing one. *sigh Round 176553 when I ...

The_Silver_Nuke

Are piercing syringes meant to be deflected by modsuits? Is that an intended feature or a bug?

The_Silver_Nuke

Rather than arguing against the PR in general I think it'd be best if effort was spent improving the PR to better accommodate players. Change is fine, being locked in stasis forever stagnates the game.

Of course, that change should take into account current features of the game that way it meshes ...

The_Silver_Nuke

One suggestion I might make is that the armor modules take up lots of complexity. This is something that you couldn't really do with mechs, but you can choose where to specialize your MOD suit. If you want armor and no fancy equipment then that's something that could be possible. For example the ...

The_Silver_Nuke

mr_dude_guy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 01, 2022 7:07 am I spawned as CMO and tried on the new suit and at some point had a problem where I got spammed with "You need to retract the part first" messages.

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/issues/63736

The_Silver_Nuke

Also, I think it'd be cool if you could get certain modules as nuke ops, like the cloaking one robotics can print.

-Edit- It turns out that the EMP protection mod does NOT protect against EMP in regards to augmented limbs. How disappointing.

The_Silver_Nuke

I used the potion on the core. I had a separate potion for lavaproofing too but I had to apply that on the actual parts. Both times the colors were retained but I don't know if the effect for the lavaproofing was considering that it lost the speed and I couldn't test it without taking a dip

The_Silver_Nuke

NecromancerAnne wrote: ↑Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:06 pm...I also red potion'd it...

It's funny that you mention that because I tried using a red potion this time instead of a stabilized extract, and as soon as you take it off the potion loses effect and you have to reapply it. I'm not sure what could be causing that.

The_Silver_Nuke

Honestly the prototype modsuit might be a little TOO slow. It's crippling even. Literally unplayable. It's essential that you get a stabilized red extract and only then do you get to playable speeds. Oh, and speaking of extracts you can't use any in the suit storage. it has to be in a pocket slot ...

The_Silver_Nuke

There's a module that lets you eat through the helmet if you want to be able to eat with the suit on.

The_Silver_Nuke

Okay so I've been putting feedback in other places but was advised to put it in this thread I just found out existed.

1: As it currently is AI vision is linked to the camera network, however if the AI is inserted into a modsuit then it should be also able to draw vision from the suit itself. If the ...

The_Silver_Nuke

Since I'm mentioning AI improvements to the modsuit, the AI should be able to unbuckle or help resist out of things. Say your occupant is dead and buckled. You won't be able to move them like you normally can since they're in something as simple as a chair.

The_Silver_Nuke

As it currently is AI vision is linked to the camera network, however if the AI is inserted into a modsuit then it should be also able to draw vision from the suit itself. If the modsuit is on lavaland for example they will be unable to help their suit occupant as they won't be able to see. As a ...

The_Silver_Nuke

This is a spicy conversation. I'm not going to defend @Kendrickorium or anything, but I do see where they're coming from in regards to unilateral codebase changes. It can be difficult to feel that your voice is heard when changes are pushed through despite user feedback. In regards to continuing to ...

The_Silver_Nuke

Qustinnus wrote:https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/56646

I no longer have any complaints. Just the request to change the button to be a bit more distinguishable from a peripheral view, and that would be it! Thanks for your speedy fix.

The_Silver_Nuke

In general my biggest problem is probably disarm. I've already used F to toggle between modes, so that's not a big deal to me. Shoving when I mean to examine, or examining when I mean to shove is a bit awful. Additionally, when observing I have to be in gamer mode, sitting upright with both hands on ...

The_Silver_Nuke

I've also been advised that Ashwalkers are allowed to invade, and have only seen an admin crack down on it once, though I'm sure there are more situations that I am unaware of that they were punished. Discrepancy in policy and players tendency to try to twist things to their advantage as much as ...

The_Silver_Nuke

While I'm not an admin, I was playing this round and was privy to witnessing (and experiencing firsthand) the skeleton's thralls murderboning willy nilly. This isn't the first time this has happened either, as skeletons have been raiding the station for some time, and it never sat well with me ...

The_Silver_Nuke

I agree that posting potentially fringe content was wrong. I wasn't aware it was at the time, as I thought it was fine. I'll be more scrupulous in the future.

The_Silver_Nuke

I definitely was going to follow what Nerv said after he had mentioned it the first time. I didn't feel that it was in violation, but since he had determined it to be then I was going to listen and not upload any content that could be construed as being a rule breaking post. If I do get approved ...

The_Silver_Nuke

I'm up early in the mornings, and there aren't usually admins on then. It says that it goes to IRS or Discord, but ultimately unless multiple people start spamming ahelps nobody will show up.

The_Silver_Nuke

I'm sorry to hear that. I was only warned the one time literally five minutes before he placed the ban, and I had no precedent of posting *suspected fringe content. This appeal is the same because my opinion on it is the same. Posting it the second time was genuinely unintentional and I'm not sure ...

The_Silver_Nuke

Too many times I've noticed the SM delam because nobody set it up shift start. The AI can make it safe to operate shift start with zero assistance, it won't generate power since they can't insert plasma cans but it won't explode at the minimum. I'd like to suggest that AI roles not only require borg ...

The_Silver_Nuke

They already get a serious mood debuff when they do so, why is more necessary? Besides, clowns are valid by nature.

The_Silver_Nuke

was he ordered not to?
he writes very confusingly so it's not very clear but the banned player did say the victim didn't communicate
clearing this up should help deciding whether the player was at fault or not[/quote]

I ordered them to ignore law two orders from that officer to prevent human harm ...

The_Silver_Nuke

As a general rule/precedent, this:
Ai tells me to ignore law 2 from Fred cus law 1 "he cremate man" and tells me to wall him off.

Has never flown unless they're non-human. You can't punish someone for previous harm, or imprison them indefinitely to "prevent future harm" - the only case it's ...

The_Silver_Nuke

...thanks. While I do appreciate you pulling logs reading through all these just makes me feel sorta crappy. There's at least a few that I remember that aren't listed there as well. Search for the term "loli" or "lolicon" and you may find a lot more. Most of the time they're few and far between but ...

The_Silver_Nuke

Unfortunately by creating this appeal it seems to have drawn out more harassment. I'm going to have to start taking screenshots of every time this business gets brought up in BYOND or Discord. You post one questionable image accidentally that could have been easily forgotten about and the next thing ...

The_Silver_Nuke

This does not abide by the perma reapplication year rule as both the ban and the appeal were done in july.

This is a fair point. I wasn't going to appeal at all to be honest, but after repeated proddings and people bringing it up on a consistent basis I decided to make a post about it, thinking ...

The_Silver_Nuke

I am aware. I'd like to mention that after you had determined that it was unacceptable that I immediately fell in line and was not going to post anything like that again. The fact that I made a mistake almost immediately afterwards and got banned for it is a tragedy. I'd hope my sincerity is clear ...

The_Silver_Nuke

I'm surprised you're still so passionate about this even a year later. I already mentioned that the second time was unintentional, regardless of my personal opinion on it. I had never intended to ignore your warning, and I tried to make that clear. All I had wanted to do at the time was socialize ...

The_Silver_Nuke

User: The_Silver_Nuke#0735
Admin: Nervere
Time: 07/12/19 est 3:40PM MTN time
Ban Reason: Challenging an admin warning
Your side of the story : Nervere gave me a warning for posting suspected fringe content on the Discord. I didn't feel that it was in violation at the time but I decided to just ...

The_Silver_Nuke

I'm personally not a fan. I appreciate the effort that went into it but like what was mentioned above there's just too much visual clutter with it on screen.

The_Silver_Nuke

zxaber wrote:You just have to make it standard procedure to tell them that mech weapons are middle click for AIs, because absolutely no player ever actually sees the giant text stating such.

Can confirm, this has happened to me on multiple occasions.

The_Silver_Nuke

annoyinggreencatgirl wrote:Should a posibrain put into a mech with lethal weapons consider antags to be part of "the crew"? Why or why not and which ones?

I second this. Also, should it not be so that robos can bind posis to their will?

The_Silver_Nuke

This policy is a little vague, as there isn't an actual statement in headmin rulings or in silicon policy that would indicate how posibrains should act. If created by a gangster, tot, or some other antag, do posibrains share that antag status? How do you determine that? Or do they just act like ...

The_Silver_Nuke

Why is it needing to be replaced in the first place? Nobody has answered this question in the week that this PR has been open. Why it's better to remove cloning instead of reworking it, and it seems that we won't get an answer. When it comes down to it it seems the tough questions are the ones that ...

The_Silver_Nuke

Thanks for the reply, though in regards to your cost response, there is a significant cost: time and effort. I can't count on my fingers the number of times we've run out of resources for various reasons, but the most contributing factors are either laziness, distraction, or an inability to do your ...

The_Silver_Nuke

How is it not logical and clearly laid out?

What I mean is, he didn't give a reason why it would be better to remove it rather than to rework it. Maybe that's a little easier to understand. Now I will admit to being personally biased FOR cloning to remain in the game. I feel that cloning is ...

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