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1. Saying "prejudiced people are prejudiced" doesn't mean it's a "fixed trait." You can be prejudiced at one point in your life and then not prejudiced at another.

2. because of reason #1 it does not imply that prejudiced people are unchangable. Though a lot of people do justify their prejudice ...

TBH this reply is mostly just you encouraging me to engage more "constructively" rather than the issue at hand. I don't think anyone here has said prejudiced people are "ontologically evil" so I'm not disqualifying that with my "flippant humor." I also never advocated for immediately permanently ...

[.....] Treating people as if they're irredeemable because of a single misstep isn't protective: it's how you create the alienated villains you claim to oppose.

Yeah everyone knows prejudiced people are prejudiced because society is too mean to them when they use harmful language. I remember ...

The ban has been lifted. Thanks for the response!

Hey, thanks for appealing, and for keeping your tone level both here and in PMs. I’m lifting the ban, but I want to use this moment for something more than just a procedural reset.

You've been around a long time. You clearly care about the game and the community. You've got insight, history, and a ...

kinnebian wrote: ↑Tue May 20, 2025 7:47 am if we were hard filtering, id rather more prominent slurs/bigotry go first, aka the n word.

My first term did that after the host offered us the opportunity (after saying for years it wouldn't happen), Hulk made a video about it.

if we put every word we don't like to see onto a hard filter, we're not going to be able to filter the people who would unabashedly use those words out as effectively.

This frames moderation as a kind of morality test: that we need to "catch" people saying bad things to reveal their ...

if we put every word we don't like to see onto a hard filter, we're not going to be able to filter the people who would unabashedly use those words out as effectively.

This frames moderation as a kind of morality test: that we need to "catch" people saying bad things to reveal their essential ...

Part of me agrees, but part of me also acknowledges that there's valid reasons to use the word from time to time and another third part of me thinks it should stay because it's a good trap for the kind of person who gets really fucking mad at us for telling them they can't make rape jokes ...

Our roleplay suffers at higher pop counts. You're forced into more interactions with players, more often, for what are ostensibly going to be more lulsorandom shifts and shorter length shifts. Each interaction is going to be more terse and you're going to be able to spend less time interacting ...

Alright here's my new schedule concept. Trying to incorporate common midterms and finals times for academic schedules.

We do some more coordination with April Fool's PRs and we provide a schedule for people to get hype about. This requires less work than other seasonal events while still showcasing ...

I'll just move the topic for 'em

EDIT: Alright it's officially in policy now. Regie made a funny anagram joke before it was but don't take it as an excuse to shitpost in this thread, please.

Instead of a binary "no head assigned for humans", we could consider lower job weights for nonhumans in head positions instead

isn’t that what this policy is suggesting we do?

This policy fills all available human heads (the system will already fill head roles over the HIGH pick) and then ...

As one of the most vocal amongst the 'no non-human heads' crowd: I Wholeheartedly support this proposal!

Seconding Wine's sentiment!

What I really like about this solution is that it maintains the vibe and also has a kind of poetic resonance with the IRL circumstances of having low population ...

The core issue with naming policy is that people with privilege and/or investment are attached to non-compliant names and have made clear it's a hill they will die on. Others feel bad for people who have had non-compliant names for a long time, they feel like they are taking something away for ...

The core issue with naming policy is that people with privilege and/or investment are attached to non-compliant names and have made clear it's a hill they will die on. Others feel bad for people who have had non-compliant names for a long time, they feel like they are taking something away for ...

Capsandi wrote: ↑Mon Apr 07, 2025 2:37 pm

So are you gonna share the game with us?

Congrats to Striders, Rex, and Iain0! This is going to be a great term!!

And a big thanks to everyone who voted for me! Stay tuned, I'm gonna be up to stuff this term. Gonna keep that momentum going!

Lmao it puts the bump under the last post, insane. Might as well just actually post.

Capsandi wrote: ↑Fri Apr 04, 2025 12:44 am I'd do this if i weren't prepping for lvdum dare rn.

Based Ludum Dare engager. I've always thought we should try and talk about that event more as a community, I think I made a thread about it ages ago. It would be cool I think.

I think this is something worth bringing up at a community meeting so everyone can get on the same page and players can provide each other with casual correction and/or know that it's worth bringing up to admins if someone is being annoying about it

Orbit reports give a sense of round expectation that might not benefit us. I know that captains are free to keep that info under wraps, but there's no consequence really to sharing it?

I will be AFK this weekend
Campaign death, I know, so I'm setting out my dog to protect my thread while I'm away. Her name is Curie, please be nice to her.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/808781978958299198/1084723225843474483/IMG_20230313_012110378__exported_stabilized_1678688551718.gif ...

Striders has made the choice to endorse my plans to get pop back, in turn I am endorsing him.

Rave ... I genuinely believe he's capable of getting us our pop back.

I am officially endorsing Striders, if you plan to vote Rave #1 please put Striders at #2

Striders - Signaled his buy-in on ...

This has been such a great election so far, my only regret is not posting even more! I'll be updating my OP (already did a little), and polishing things up for voting week. Thanks to everyone who's contributed to this thread and the rest of the election discussions. It's fantastic seeing everyone ...

MRP has had an antag problem for a while. Players don't feel comfortable playing loud for any number of reasons and its led to norms where people rush their objectives wordlessly. it was a bigger deal when progtot was around.

It's staff's responsibility to explain the limits and common paths to ...

.csv's of organized data. Best opened as a spreadsheet.

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Statbus lets you change the URL to whatever book ID you're looking into.

Ezel/ImprovedName has sparked interest in library standards and concerns. This thread is a space for record and discussion of books in the db, mainly in practical nuts and bolts. Confirming that groups of books are duplicates, flagging adult content that is out-of-section, and flagging titles of ...

I like this as a theory, but this isn't a solution.

You can note then jobban people for playing in an idiotic way and have people not banned lead by example for new players and for when those people are unbanned. That's how I see "improving RP standards".

An example is people like Lisa Green ...

i attempted this when I rewrote space law in a diagetic way that informed how we would like security to conduct, and made sure to do so in a way that was not punitive for people who didn't want to adhere strictly to. it ended up being reversed as policy at some point either this term or the last ...

Matter of fact is nobody knows how to fucking do it.

The problem is that policy and rules are prescriptive: they exist to be complied with. That creates structure, but it also creates rigidity.

What we need more of right now is the descriptive side: cultural guidance that explains the why, not ...

This is so cool, what a development for transparency!

- Are policy threads required before making a PR?
Unless we're doing it or we've requested it, yeah. It's fun to discuss! I can see how github could be a new space to discuss config changes. That could be something worth exploring.

- Will ...

As someone who's pushed hard for meeting ToS and having been on the team that stripped WGW of its original special status you're making a strong point.

Having that said, there are strong arguments for the status quo. Some are concerned about over-sanitizing an 18+ space and the slippery slope of ...

The Wallening was bad and I played my own part in that. The only comment I have on the code itself is that hard-working and kind people spent a lot of time working together to make it happen and I felt defensive of them.

I spent last election engaging the community and hearing out the people who ...

If I had a chance for blood to return, I would pick old artist players that they have history with TG that left during that turmoil and then new folks that join and are curious and may get involved with our community. These veterans may be a steppingstone to a support group with each other.

Do ...

We've got really great candidates this election, and I hope to see them run in future elections, too.

As a question of compatibility:

Rex - I've had intriguing back-and-forth discussions with him and if we can find a groove with that I think that we'll both be putting out refined and stress ...

I am not sure what you mean by the last sentence?

What I mean to say is that after the wallening everything continued to be on fire and we still haven't recovered from it fully, especially, as you pointed out, with artists and mappers. I think that content creators of all kinds are important ...

Congrats on a great first thread, Ian! I am thrilled to be running with someone like you who also appreciates the entertainment and energy of a thriving election cycle.

Addressing point spam is an interesting plank, I have never seen discussion on point spam from the maintainers and I'm very ...

I have no vision for security. My goals for security as headmin for this upcoming term would be to try and facilitate discussion and understanding between opposing parties rather than seeking to push a side. I believe that with enough thoughtful discussion that clear answers or compromises can be ...

[*]Re-evaluate our statistical approach to community population and open up discussion on understanding "core" players who draw others in. Our current approach is missing key dynamics.

I think this is a very important point that shouldn't be overlooked. Things were always run like "we change ...

[*]Implement quirk bans in the database so people can get paxed or blinded as an additional step before perma. This adds another layer of correction without immediately resorting to game bans.

Isn't this code territory? Do we have the framework to even place such bans?

I am so glad you ...

I think this is something you have to encourage by giving people examples rather than punishing them for not knowing and expecting them to figure it out. We need to develop better educational materials that describe without prescribing.

We do have a Toolbox Tourney on the horizon! Which is awesome, nature is healing.

Outrage is a combination of surprise and anger, so if you don't surprise people with things that make them angry it can go better. It's our responsibility to inform the community.

Now that things are calmer and on ...

Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Mon Mar 17, 2025 10:40 pm How will you as a headmin combat speciesism or do you believe its fine.

I'm interested to see how things go now that the IRL 1-letter knockoff slur is gone. Gonna be keeping an eye on it.

In all of my time here I don't think I have ever seen someone have to defend giving out an antag token in a way that mattered. It's usually someone going >:( in bus about it. They can't be redeemed for cash and they sure as hell shouldn't be given out to your pals as a benefit, but imo it's the same ...

First step: community meeting for Manuel players, recent and established. Those who show up and have something to (respectfully) say get heard. Ideas for sybil improvement from sybil fans, ideas for manuel improvements from manuel fans. The fastest solutions are only achievable with group buy-in ...

I quite like the sound of the in game punishments before perma

Hey Tapu, thanks for weighing in.

Based on what you know from the people you play with, do you think that most players would prefer a pax or blind ban over a game ban?
Some have posited that there are players who would feel that ...

Dynamic needs to have an easier interface for admins to engage, if I need to put my own money on the table as a bounty to advance that then so be it.

Dynamic should also be an option among discrete round types, maybe do like a 50/50, 60/40 or 80/20 old roundtypes/dynamic. It would be fun to try.

I think the current culture shift is reminiscent of the Bagil/Sybil dynamic that existed pre-Manuel. There are players who are willing to play low pop if it means that they get the pacing and social RP they want. Other players want to play on a highpop server and they tend to have preferences and ...

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I get that this is a frustrating and deeply personal issue for you, and I appreciate you coming back to engage even though it's exhausting. But I have to push back on the idea that preserving in-game power dynamics is the same as supporting real-life bullying.

This isn't about 'harassment ...

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