/tg/Station 13

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maint uploads are a scourge on the game idk why we have super fortress ai upload chamber but then you can just build a second one in the alley behind a 7/11 and upload your one human greentext law

code solution requiring upload consoles to be within a certain radius of the core? At the very ...

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make bear traps wearable on the mask slot so you can headbutt them and give them the big chomp

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you should be able to attach boxing gloves to springs and put them in lockers so that when someone opens the locker they get punched in the face

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the simplest approach to this whole subject is the Kor Doctrine
If you perform an action which has zero benefit to you other than making others upset (like killing Ian) I will ban you if you adminhelp when someone kills you.
once someone does the Thing Of No Benefit, they're an outlaw in the ...

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honestly I've always been on team "there should be more options for conversion tools so it isn't a flash every single time" the same way that uplinks have different options but I'm unsure what the alternative item should be besides something you might reasonably scrounge out of tech storage or ...

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make megaphones stackable with each additional megaphone in the stack making the font bigger

make honking a bike horn into a megaphone stack go off like a honker blast with AoE proportional to the number of megaphones in the stack

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That said I also think this about the Captain's Laser; unfortunately players (and occasionally admins) consistently prove that it's impossible to give people nice things for flavour sometimes.

elsewhere I PR'd a thing that made the cap's laser randomise its stats at roundstart as befitting an ...

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add binder clips to office supplies alongside pens and paper trays and make them used for gathering documents together

they also have a secondary use

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Wikipedia summarizes the history of the terms clearly:
Intellectually-disabled people were originally defined with words such as "morons" or "imbeciles", which then became commonly used insults. The medical diagnosis was changed to "mentally retarded", which morphed into a pejorative against those ...

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code solution, maybe it should take more than a wrench to move some machines like the bolts should need an id swipe to access or something
especially if they're machines that tend to occupy an otherwise unobstructed hole in a wall

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Cargo should apply mosin nagants to anyone breaking in

god
I just had a horrible idea
what if security had a punishment for greytiders that was basically the intestinators from the movie Fortress (1992) that basically just fucked them up horribly if they cross an area boundary _except_ if they ...

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Take a step back and look at other MRP servers, most of them have their validhunt rule apply to the captain since it is out of their realm of duty. The captain should remain a leadership role, not a combat role unless things have gone awry on the station.

HRP admin here.
While I'd bwoink a ...

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bro you literally suggested that silicons should ask for a bribe to look the other way on human harm as one of your examples and then suggested that stopping human harm was "extreme interpretation of [their] laws"

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I agree with Vekter. Security mobilising in force and throwing everyone aiding a known criminal into the gulag can be a really cool moment.

... but this isn't always possible. Sometimes you have a lone security officer, and having that officer just be unable to carry out arrests at all is lame ...

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One thing I'd note is that I often see 'tiding' or 'greytiding' used to mean two different things: General griefing/arming up/stealing for no reason and the in-game action of breaking and entering, which all players end up doing to some degree due to the way the access mechanic in the game is ...

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The idea that "wordlessly killing" amount to NRP is dumb in the first place. There are plenty of situations where that is perfectly fine IC, for example people trespassing high security areas like the armory, AI upload or *gasp* bridge.

I just remembered one of the times I was hrp adminning and ...

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I'm still not exactly sure what the complaint here is, or what a solution would look like. Faking a revolution intentionally is pretty obvious because it gets the entire station thinking there's revs? What needs to change?

I recall the concern that was voiced in adminbus was that someone just ...

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i think it would be better if paradox clones didn't always explicitly have antagonistic objectives and could reasonably just be "this guy, but dropped in from another universe by mistake".

it would be very funny to have a bender/flexo situation where it's the original that's the evil one (may ...

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I still think it'd be funny if paradox clones from the good timeline showed up if the original is a traitor and weren't considered antagonists - except obviously they know their clone is an antagonist and can therefore rule 4 them or sic security on them.

That way being found to be the clone by ...

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add mapbans for people who grief because they don't like the map
if that map rolls while they're banned from it they get kicked from the server

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comedy prisoner's dilemma option
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That disregards the intent behind the non-antag's actions and encourages non-antags to seek antags to grief along, so I'm not sure if it's ideal

I did say it was a comedy option
butyeah dendy summed it up pretty well, people shouldn't be scared that ...

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comedy prisoner's dilemma option

If an antag makes bombs available (sells them, leaves them lying around, pulls them into the shuttle on a locker that someone gets curious about and immediately opens and grabs the contents, etc) and a nonantag sets them off, it's fair game 'cause an antag caused it ...

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Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:18 am If we bring back ban requests it is ABSOLUTELY vital that they are not publically visible until resolved imo. They are the king of drama factories.

the popcorn factor was the only thing good about ban requests and even that part was only good for the people who weren't involved

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The main followup policy question that comes to mind is "what to do if a meta emerges of security just lying in the security records to stop silicons from releasing prisoners"

That's actually really interesting gameplay! Should we lie about our records and trick the AI, but maybe an officer ...

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Okay, so something like this?

3. Nonviolent prisoners cannot be assumed harmful. Violent prisoners cannot be subsequently assumed non-harmful. Knowingly or in ignorance of clear evidence releasing a harmful prisoner is a harmful act. Silicons can use the crime listed in a prisoner's security ...

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It's extra funny when you only assign a goal of like 50 points and they still dont do it.

Cope, seethe, and mald grayshit.

It's the principle of it.
You shall not a single sheet out of me, tyrant.

Good?

Pretty sure this is the intended goal when gulagging tiders.

round removing ...

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aren't half the arcade machine prizes things that are meant to fool people that aren't paying attention into thinking that there's an esword / red spacesuit / whatever around

kinda like the old trick of renaming a book to "cryptographic sequencer" and putting it in your bag in front of someone

a ...

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Wahh wahh wahh the crew is begging him to stop because he figured out a cool combo.

There will always be broken features, coders can cope but it won't matter. Give up balance and embrace the jank.

broken combos are fun until its recorded and the next 50 players who get wizard do the same ...

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i dont think rule 8 should be a problem for anyone who doesnt have a porn addiction and i dont see why it needs so many clarifications

Because the conversations usually go a little like this:

- Someone posts something questionable in the art channel.
- A Discord Jannie nukes it because, to ...

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As antags are not bound by escalation policy, breaking escalation policy is acting like an antagonist :^)

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A way to deconvert rather than kill would be good for pretty much all our antags. That'd lower the cost of trying and failing.

Saw someone putting up posters? Deconvert them. Someone took a guy hostage? Deconvert them. Mad bomber took out a department? Deconvert them. There is no reason to ...

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Shadowflame909 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 13, 2023 11:57 am
Timberpoes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 11:21 am Foxgirls pls.
As long as its an kitsune and not a kumiho.

One is a cute japan office prankster and the other is a liver eating antagonist

Know the difference! It can save your life

new antag idea: an actual fucking kumiho
humans get to be eugene tooms (still eats livers)

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Re: the bartender's shotgun, there's precedent for security not being allowed to just take it because they want a weapon: viewtopic.php?p=661410#p661410

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Futuristic Game Show Team who get droppodded onto the station with a variety of gimmicky loadouts and rack up points for using them on the crew and accomplishing gameshow goals like securing the briefcase of cash that just got droppodded into the armory or uploading the special gameshow laws to the ...

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Why don't we just go back to the situation we had before where the word was merely insulting IC and there was no problem whatsoever.....

the situation that led to the ruling being made didn't even involve the dude being valided, he just got beaten horizontal and dragged to medbay by the guy he ...

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The reason so people don't wind up being """""""ICly"""""" metagrudged for playing the damn game. Most places handle it with forced-amnesia because even if it is benign, there's always that one dipshit that listens in on the conversation and starts shouting "URIST MCPOSSESSED IS A HERETIC HE ...

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My favourite thing during summon ghosts is to rename myself "Dog ghost that opens doors you point at", activate my AI interaction and randomly woosh around opening doors that people point at

reminds me of the time I played a sentient Ian with knock and security were torn between validing me for ...

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Don't you think it's a bit silly to emphasize the "repeated" or "multiple" recalls bit when, in the shift in question, I was the only other person who could have reasonably called the shuttle, since the AI was subverted and would not have called the shuttle against the orders of his master ...

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when rolling a blunt, you should be able to stack it in layers so that when someone smokes it they start off with nice innocent weed and then the flame burns down to the gunpowder layer

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add hermit crab men that run around wearing boxes, crates, and lockers

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The purpose of kill/ "murderbone" policy is foregoing your mechanics to just pick people off, its not like "you cant kill more than 5 people unless your chart says Yes".

Changelings have reason to off people on their own on top of the other aspects we allow killing for (self defense, witness ...

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The purpose of kill/ "murderbone" policy is foregoing your mechanics to just pick people off, its not like "you cant kill more than 5 people unless your chart says Yes".

Changelings have reason to off people on their own on top of the other aspects we allow killing for (self defense, witness, etc ...

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Wizard station trait that spawns everyone with robes and a random spell regardless of antag status (not exclusive with an actual wizard showing up)

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hey so a polariscode server I played on a while back had this problem once thanks to one particular shithead who set himself to spawn with one arm and went around tiding and yakketysaxing away constantly and screaming if anyone laid a finger on him because he was playing the speedy fragile alien ...

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traitors stealing all access for their traitoring is fine, every yahoo on the station having it because it exploded and now everyone has ID console access and can shit out infinity all-access cards and spread them around the station is not

buff agent IDs to have more slots if traitors being able to ...

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as for the recent peanut surrounding a medbay of lizards refusing to treat someone, i would rule on that differently because it was a case of someone alienating themselves from the crew for their prejudice after throwing slurs at pretty much everyone that was in a position to help them, and it ...

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what happened to "if you do something of no benefit to you besides making others upset, I'll ban you if you ahelp over getting killed for it"

where does "I found this person sideways, but even though I didn't personally make them like that they pissed me off earlier in the shift so I'm just going ...

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I don't remember what our decision was on erotic content in library books, but I think this should mirror that, for the most part. If I could personally choose, I don't think I'd permit anything suggestive in paintings just because this really isn't the place for that kind of thing, but we need to ...

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Iunno man, sounds like you care more about some funny green text more than you do about being interesting.

I mean, you could level that sentiment at people who get mad at round removal too.
If the antags aren't a threat of ending your round... what's the fucking point of having them at all ...

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every death of a nonantag within the brig area or at the hands of a roundstart sec member has a steadily increasing chance of a midround antag spawning in the form of an all-access skeleton in head of security gear who's only spawn text is The crime is life. The sentence is death.

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