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Ergovisavi

Except it has nothing to do with stamina and it in no way accentuates the issue. If they were using lasers, you'd be in crit, which is LITERALLY an indefinite stun until you die. The only difference is that one is labeled STAMINA and the other BURN.

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PKPenguin321 wrote:I think stamina damage contributing to damage slowdown is the issue. Damage slowdown calculations should ignore stamina damage.

Damage slowdown existing in the first place is the issue, as it causes a snowball effect in combat encounters. Stamina is irrelevant.

Ergovisavi

PKPenguin321 wrote:
Ergovisavi wrote:You don't suffer slowdown on the first shot, so no, first shot "doesn't win".
This assumes you have exactly 100 health, doesn't it?

You don't assume combat starts at 2 HP. Anyway, damage slowdown is the real issue here, in that instance, not stamina.

Ergovisavi

You don't suffer slowdown on the first shot, so no, first shot "doesn't win". Unless someone changed the way we calculate that.

Ergovisavi

Stamina was never supposed to exist at the same time as one-and-done stuns. You dont need to rework stamina, the entire combat system from the ground up needs to be hit. The fact that this was implemented in such a fashion still annoys me... Cheridan chose the wrong path.

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Slipping is an infinitely abusable and shit mechanic for anything but placeables such as peels or soap. The mop is fine, but buckets, spraybottles and water bottles and the like are idiotic considering infinite water is available all over the station. Using a fucking camouflaged tile or lighting to ...

Ergovisavi

'Nother new mob, probably the last one for a long while.
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/29253

Ergovisavi

I fully admit that the mobs I create may be overtuned, as their largest source of testing comes from myself. That said they aren't even put anywhere on the map yet, so nobody has really seen them, so maybe dial down the YOU'RE LITERALLY FUCKING HITLER until they've seen some action?

Also, I don't ...

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This should be renamed to "Easy delivery methods of reagents are anti-fun and should be removed". Our reagent system doesn't even attempt to be balanced in the slightest, and as a result they're just one-click-kills at various ranges.

Being able to make a deadly poison: Good!
Being able to add ...

Ergovisavi

Link for another planetstion mob PR
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/29046

So it's up to three hostile mobs I guess if we count Kor's original one. Which was how many hostile mobs there were when monster mining became a thing.

Ergovisavi

Noted. Thank you.

Ergovisavi

Speak for yourselves. I find the Vets and Beach Bums great for killing dragons and colossi. Beach bum gives you a nice big arena to work with, and the vet gives you lots of medical supplies.

Great if you just want to measure how robust you're feeling.

Ergovisavi

Can I or can I not ride the fuckin Janicart? I just want to clean the fucking place up.

Ergovisavi

PR up for one jungle mob
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/28921

Ergovisavi

you can power the entire station off this.

https://file.house/4jBm.png

Alas, rad collectors do not collect radiation, just pulses from singulo and SM.

but they do! measuring the current in the wires revealed that they do in fact generate power from rads.

I'm not seeing a rad_act() in ...

Ergovisavi

oranges wrote:
Ergovisavi wrote: building an autism fort.
isn't this the whole point you muppet

Depends on your perspective. If that is the goal, then my feedback is off topic and can be safely ignored.

Ergovisavi

Also, I get that this is SS13 and "anyone can do anything" but the lack of actual differences between the characters is a little disappointing.

Wish the character you started with had a little extra gear depending on their "job" to make them more unique than the others, IE: The engineer starts with ...

Ergovisavi

There's nothing to do after clearing out the fairly unthreatening hivebots.

This is sort of the problem with SS13 in general, but after you control the ancient station there's not really anywhere to go from there. Needs to be some kind of end goal for these guys, otherwise it's just "Okay now it's ...

Ergovisavi

Most non-mining hostile mobs will ignore you if you fall asleep.
http://i.imgur.com/gNnimJJ.jpg

Amusingly, this was added by Ergo.
Which completely defeats his point above.

No it wasn't. Hostile mobs always ignored you by default if you were unconscious. I kept that functionality in by default ...

Ergovisavi

>I want to buff this thing that literally, LITERALLY involves NOT playing the game

Stop and reconsider if you're attempting to buff this feature because it "Makes sense" instead of "Makes the gameplay better". Hitting the sleep button and healing your wounds but giving yourself all the amazing ...

Ergovisavi

TechnoAlchemist wrote:It's for sharpening your survival knife

Again, for what purpose? The crusher does more damage, as does the Kinetic accelerator.

Is it just shitters wanting a weapon for validing their fellow spaceman? A sharpened survival knife isn't going to do shit on Lava land.

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calzilla1 wrote:Is it just me or are miners not only asking for the stones more but are the most aggressive?

For what purpose? Nothing in mining needs a whetstone. A whetstone is an astounding 4% increase to damage for the crusher, and even less if we're calculating using the crusher for backstabs.

The fuck?

Ergovisavi

I really should fucking buff nanofrost, too. I never touched it after I made it, I think. Doesn't help that few people actually know about it.

Ergovisavi

I will stab you. You already have the damn plasma cutter.

Ergovisavi

Now it's actually far more useful to revive Ian or sentient Xenobio creatures, or crewmembers who were transfermed into simple mobs. Maybe it would really be better in RnD, instead of having to ask miners for it? Same with the mining jetpack upgrade?

The idea that research should be the one stop ...

Ergovisavi

Okay, but why is the ability to revive mobs unique to miners to begin with? It seems far more useful on the station than on mining.

Because when I first implemented mobs to mining, the Goliath was significantly more horrifying and deadly, so reviving them to use as an attack dog on station when ...

Ergovisavi

I don't know who added research levels to the lazarus injector, because when I first made it, it sure as hell didn't have any tech levels, explicitly to stop shit like this from happening.

The bizarre need to turn things that are supposed to be abstract game mechanics into something that gets ...

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I made this feature literally because I wanted the colossus back in the game because danmaku is fun

Some things you can do with it:
Slowly turn the station into a frozen wintery hellhole
Slowly turn the station into lava land where your KA does full damage
Fix hull breaches and the like by ...

Ergovisavi

Having created the ORM, I do have a few comments:

I believe that stripping KA upgrades from the ORM would probably be for the better, this will increase the amount of time some miners spend on station. Keep in mind that once you hit a certain skill level, any interaction with the ORM/Science isn't ...

Ergovisavi

Ever heard of RCD's? The things you can use to wall off the fucking everything in mere moments? Or building girders?

Both of these can block off sections of the station, and are (shockingly) available all over the place. And can be dealt with via common tools, just like the shelter capsules.

My ...

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By the time you get to an extinguisher you're probably dead. If the initial ball didn't kill you, you take like 40 burn damage instantly the moment you step on the lava.
Dropping and rolling doesn't work due to lmaofirestacks, i'm still not sure why we still have that mechanic.

You take 20 burn ...

Ergovisavi

Things about the lava staff that are good

* It's novel
* It's powerful
* The cooldown is fucking gigantic
* It's obvious who has it and that they should be dunked

Things about the lava staff that aren't great

*Lava is permanent
*People are too stupid to use extinguishers to save themselves
*It ...

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Does this mean bans will be handed out for assholes that fuck over their teammates? I recall being in a gang round where the virologist infected the entire crew, including their own gang , with a virus that basically took them out of the round, and was not even talked to. The jackass didn't even ...

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I think the black box is a novel idea and it's pretty neat having a little shared treasure cache amongst people stupid/robust enough to fight the colossus. That said, it being the only reward for fighting them means if you're fighting multiple colossi you only get a maximum of one reward (And ...

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This thread is silly.Chemistry is arguably the #1 most reliable source of completely unfun kills in this game.

Projectiles that instantly mute you, instantly stun you, kill you in one shot without immediate help from an outside source all at once, are available seconds after round start to non ...

Ergovisavi

>15 force
>An impressive number
>All null rod variants do 18 damage
>Circular saw, Drill do 15
>Stunprods are GG NO RE
>Bolas are strong as FUCK and ranged

u wot m8

Ergovisavi

If I had a word to describe what little I've seen of it, it is this:

This mode is overdesigned.

It's very complicated and has many moving parts. Yes, SS13 is "Wiki-reading: The game", but this is pretty damn deep in terms of rote memorization depth in order to learn, bordering on Grapple rules ...

Ergovisavi

But there's plenty of times where a bug has cropped in because obviously the coder never bothered to test their code beyond "yurp, it compiles".
Sadly he's not wrong

That happens at Triple A game studios with developers that have decades of experience. And yet, the world keeps on spinning, and ...

Ergovisavi

Wiki page is up.

https://tgstation13.org/wiki/Swarmers

Ergovisavi

Thus far what I'm expecting to do is:

1. Remove swarmer's ability to destroy telecomms machines
Reasoning: It's effectively impossible to keep swarmers out of it, and stops the crew from rallying against the swarmers too effectively. It's also a significant system for round progression and I ...

Ergovisavi

so the shortcut as it is now is turn off the power at 60 percent and just cyro the body from there?

No.

1. Throw body in cloning scanner and scan them
2. Hit clone
3. IMMEDIATELY shut off the power. This will leave them at about -85 Health.
4. Drag them to cryo and throw them in. You did prep it ...

Ergovisavi

You can speedclone someone back to full fighting form in what, 2 minutes and 30 seconds, give or take ten or so?
Er, I'm pretty sure it's much much longer than that

Wrong. It's actually much shorter!

I timed it. From dead to full health with speed cloning, removing all genetic damage, it takes ...

Ergovisavi

You can speedclone someone back to full fighting form in what, 2 minutes and 30 seconds, give or take ten or so?

Ergovisavi

They can't warpcuff people into space. It's explicitly disallowed.

Ergovisavi

the only bit I don't like about these fuckers is the warpcuff ability. The past couple of rounds have had a lot of people getting marooned because one of these things gets on the shuttle and just warps people out mid-transit. Hell, in the last round I played, not one person escaped on the shuttle ...

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A swarmer said there was a shell in the Bridge, so I (and probably some other ghosts) double-clicked it. Server hanged for about 20 seconds (OOC: LAG?), then someone actually got inside.

Later, another swamer reported a shell in Tool Storage, so I (and probably some other ghosts) double-clicked it ...

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I think its tedious having to pick up each individual sheet from a stack of resources, it would be nice if we could pick them up in bulk or even just the entire stack.

There's a distinct reason for this; To slow swarmers down, and to enable them to be caught. If you could instantly swoop in from ...

Ergovisavi

Forbidding them from atmos? Seriously? Plasma floods can barely hold ground now they burn and cool so much faster with fastmos it is pathetic and people are just running across the scorched ground after a few minutes.

It being not allowed to touch power due to singulo stealing all the food makes ...

Ergovisavi

What are you talking about? Maxing it out is rediculously easy modo.

1: Tell science to upgrade the redemption machine to let them (and you) jew harder.
2: deposit 1 bag of ores for x4 XP
3: buy 20 laz injectors with your 5345987324 points
4: farm the same goliath over and over

Shit like this ...

Ergovisavi

>People trying to use real world logic to change a game design issue

pls stop

That said yes maybe 10 is a bit much, originally when I designed this feature I compared it to my own rate of killing, which in comparison to the average miner is significantly faster. Could probably knock it down a few.

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