/tg/Station 13

BonChoi

I think, in a more general sweep, that I would support more drastic measures being taken by the headmin team / MSO to try and salvage some of Sybil's pop. Maybe not limiting the maps as a start, but other things as well.

Yes, it's true that it's a busy time for a lot of SS13 players but I really ...

BonChoi

Whatever the cap was before they were capped to 1 per round was far too many.

BonChoi

I thought it was obvious like in my first message that I was exaggerating, shame on me for not making it obvious I guess. Regardless it's the (or more) that I care about.

BonChoi

If there's 16 heretics all trying to ascend at once tearing the station apart they DEFINITELY aren't doing any gimmicks either.

I'd go as far to say that it's more of a code issue though because I feel that the inherent design of antags like Heretics don't help roleplay as much as they harm it but ...

BonChoi

...if the reason you limit them to one in MRP is balance then that's just policy trying to subvert code/design rather than work with it.

I think it's a better alternative than making MRP-specific changes to the code. MRP should have a different playstyle and feel than LRP, and I think that ...

BonChoi

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Well the policy solution in the mean time would be to keep them capped at 1 or perhaps 2, that's why I brought it up.

Anywho, a couple more pennies to think on:

This is more of a general thought, but I think that "flooding" the station with individualistic antags actually hinders ...

BonChoi

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They were an issue until the number of heretics was reduced to one per round. You'd turn the corner and BOOM rift, go around the next corner BOOM another rift. It ended up being that there would just be rifts in every public area.

As for me, I think that when there's a shitton of ...

BonChoi

The issue with increasing the amount of heretics onboard the station is that you'll end up with situations where every single corner and square inch if the station will be covered in rifts that remove people's limbs and make them want to kill themselves. Science never does anything about them either ...

BonChoi

If you strip someone and a gun falls out of their pockets probably, or something like that. I'd go with your real life intuition on this one.

BonChoi

Dunham wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:06 am We need more blood thirsty hairy ticks

Give them the voice to say fuck, I would love to see more Heretic fun rather when they ascend.

Except what you're gonna get is the same 2-3 gimmicks and a whole lot of administrative headache. It's just not worth it.

BonChoi

It's probably not a good idea for a spy to be taking out high ranking members of the station's crew if they can help it because I would feel that avoiding getting caught should be their main priority in order to be able to cause as much damage / gather as much intel as possible. Going on rampages ...

BonChoi

I was thinking as low as 40-45, maybe even lower. I was under the impression that it REPLACED Kilostation in the same capacity, not that it exceeded said capacity. Maybe I'm wrong.

BonChoi

RPR6 should apply for the * crimes * done, not whether sec needs to check on their perma prisoner every once in a while. There is not a single word in RPR6 that says that security is allowed to execute someone because they'd be difficult to contain.

Yeah, but, what is the baseline for those ...

BonChoi

I still fully believe that nobody on MRP is unlawfully executing heretics just because they're heretics and getting away with it. I just don't think that that's a problem that heretics face on MRP.

BonChoi

Not a fan, the amount of antags in a 30 threat round is sufficient enough for me to have fun, I think. The issue is that security staffing / skill can vary wildly on highpop, and if the amount of security / security's relative skill is too low it's going to end up making every round with 50+ threat ...

BonChoi

I don't think I've seen a lot of unlawful heretic executions in my time playing security on Manuel to be honest.

BonChoi

Are heretics being killed on MRP servers because they're heretics or because they committed a crime that warranted their execution, taking the consideration that they may be impossible to contain in the brig into account as well? I don't think that heretic necessarily warps RPR6 for security as much ...

BonChoi

I think the intent is important, maybe I forgot to convey that in my original post. If someone is doing these things just to piss someone else off then absolutely I have no problem with them being thrown into a wall until death. Warops is serious business IC, and if your character is doing stuff to ...

BonChoi

If someone helps after being killed for pissing people off during a nukeops round then I would hope you would hit them with a rule one ban. If you'd like IC reasoning, here it is for most cases: "Nuclear operatives are a global threat with station-ending consequences. In doing my part to help the ...

BonChoi

I don't like slimepeople as a race and I think they should be disabled.

These things should not be reenabled before fish people are created by coders but that's more of a code issue.

2024 is the year of the fish people.

BonChoi

Without a formal end to the objective, a bad hypnosis objective might as well be as good as round removing someone. Recently I spent over an hour in a round on manny with the hypnosis objective "for the love of GOD can someone please clean the chapel" and I did clean the chapel, but at what ...

BonChoi

Without a formal end to the objective, a bad hypnosis objective might as well be as good as round removing someone. Recently I spent over an hour in a round on manny with the hypnosis objective "for the love of GOD can someone please clean the chapel" and I did clean the chapel, but at what point ...

BonChoi

This would quite literally just tank sec playrate to 0 and just make it so cargo becomes the new psuedosec because then they just order mosins and kill people who are too ornery.

To be fair this ruling has been in effect for more than a few months now and I would say that security numbers have ...

BonChoi

I feel like you'd be better off posting in their feedback thread tbh, also I feel that your exact "policy suggestions" aren't quite specific enough for people to pick up on.

BonChoi

I think if it's gotten to the point that the captain is shoving people on top of doing their job for them that's also a rule 1 issue. They're being a dick.

BonChoi

I shouldn't have to neuter my characters IC reasoning for fear of OOC punishment when I am well within my rights and within the rules to be doing what I'm doing. The Captain is both a member of Security and also a member of every other department. I think it is possible that it could be overdone, i ...

BonChoi

I really think it'd be best to either remove the bold text or put something like [PLACE ANSWER HERE] after the bolded sections so users know how to actually use the template without their appeals being an eyesore.

BonChoi

Lawyers have been and should continue to be flavor roles that exist to make the rounds a little more interesting for those that interact with them. I don't think that lawyers should be codified as having a more important position than they already do because you should know that upon signing up as a ...

BonChoi

Why is the captain suddenly needed for executions, this was never the case.

Also I hate if this entire operation procedure was enforced as an OOC ruling, it really feels like telling other people how to play the game.

This was ALWAYS the case, what are you talking about
In cases where the ...

BonChoi

before space law was an entirely IC suggestion that only interacted with policy by being a vouch of good faith when the secoff could show they were following space law when dealing with criminals - is there any change to this as part of the update? will space law be treated more like OOC rules ...

BonChoi

I'm not going to lie this seems really, really complicated and I feel like it'll catch a lot of new security players (and hell maybe some more experienced ones) out because I feel like you'd have to have it printed out next to your computer to fully understand what you have to do in a specific ...

BonChoi

It just seems unnecessary to add this. Seems like ya'll already have avenues to deal with stuff like this and it seems to be common knowledge that if you're doing something in bad faith you are liable to getting dunked on, figuratively.

BonChoi

The problem with paradox clones is that there's actually no way to check at all that wouldn't be breaking the rules, and in game if you're security suddenly you have two of the same person running around (usually in my experience the clone fucks up somehow and exposes themselves to the person they ...

BonChoi

Honestly I'm a big fan of server specific bans as well, but I'd imagine that either MSO, the headmins, or the admin team in general are not big on them or else they probably would've been instituted by now.

To respond to your first point, however, I think the meta-cliques got better after the big ...

BonChoi

Yes, let's remove human head of staff exclusivity, and then we'll make the AI start on crewsimov round start and... oops! No more upsides to playing humans like there are with other races!

For real though, NT is meant to be mildly specist and that's one of the things that sets it apart from the ...

BonChoi

Yes, let's remove human head of staff exclusivity, and then we'll make the AI start on crewsimov round start and... oops! No more upsides to playing humans like there are with other races!

For real though, NT is meant to be mildly specist and that's one of the things that sets it apart from the ...

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Re: Limit sybil to only metastation/icebox/tramstation

Re: Raise the amount of heretics on MRP from 1 to 2 (or more)

Re: Raise the amount of heretics on MRP from 1 to 2 (or more)

Re: Raise the amount of heretics on MRP from 1 to 2 (or more)

Re: Raise the amount of heretics on MRP from 1 to 2 (or more)

Re: Raise the amount of heretics on MRP from 1 to 2 (or more)

Re: Raise the amount of heretics on MRP from 1 to 2 (or more)

Re: Raise the amount of heretics on MRP from 1 to 2 (or more)

Re: [Manuel] Searching bags of people brought to medbay

Re: {Roleplay} Heretics should be allowed to say fuck in an eldritch tongue

Re: Roleplay: What the fuck is a spy?

Re: Bump down the population Birdshot rolls at to 50-60

Re: {Roleplay} Heretics should be allowed to say fuck in an eldritch tongue

Re: {Roleplay} Heretics should be allowed to say fuck in an eldritch tongue

Re: Can we bump threat on manny a little bit?

Re: {Roleplay} Heretics should be allowed to say fuck in an eldritch tongue

Re: {Roleplay} Heretics should be allowed to say fuck in an eldritch tongue

Re: Wasting points during Nuke Ops = Immediate Kill?

Re: Wasting points during Nuke Ops = Immediate Kill?

Re: should slimepeople remain enabled

Re: Hypnosis/Brainwashing Guidelines

Re: Hypnosis/Brainwashing Guidelines

Re: (Proposal) Raise minimum expectations of security to at least not ignore crime.

Re: Event rounds need to be handled sensibly

Re: Captain, Security and RSR 4 (and RSR 9)

Re: Captain, Security and RSR 4 (and RSR 9)

Re: Revert ban appeal template

Re: I FOUGHT THE LAW

Re: I FOUGHT THE LAW

Re: I FOUGHT THE LAW

Re: I FOUGHT THE LAW

Re: Addition to Rule 6 Precedent 2

Re: Paradox Clones and Metagaming

Re: Two problems of Manny

Re: Enforce Human Authority: 0

Re: Enforce Human Authority: 0