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As thief can I kill???

I like the idea of thieves doing brazen robbery like holdups- inviting escalation once someones shown lethal intent towards them.

But this is already a thing, isnt it? Maybe we should have clarifying text for that on thief idk

Depends a lot on who answers the ahelp ...

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As thief can I kill???

I like the idea of thieves doing brazen robbery like holdups- inviting escalation once someones shown lethal intent towards them.

But this is already a thing, isnt it? Maybe we should have clarifying text for that on thief idk

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Don’t forget that with these audio logs we can measure peaking audio input and probably derive someone doing something untoward in the voice chat. Analyzing the transcript from that audio spike should enable us to locate who is making the noise. A reasonable payment of good faith to a darknet hitman ...

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I agree that MRP deserves a pull from HRP. The rough rules will provide for this because our vocal playerbase defers towards high chaos near-NRP.

The issue of LRP is NRP is a non issue, because the individuals who want to elevate to “true LRP” are the the minority. There’s also no functional plan ...

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Your entire argument against Pan is framed on the idea that Pan spent the shift harassing you

to my understanding, i never said this a single time in both the ticket and the appeal, what are you talking about? please re-read my appeal, i said that he was metagrudging and banbaiting me, which ...

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That being said, you can see the transition of where you ahelp fire fire-axe hit - which is perfectly valid - to seeking revenge against Pan on your own. Not doing this would have resulted in a ruling completely in your favor, once I had seen the original ticket and responded accordingly ...

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Hey there Thoman, thanks for appealing.

We had a long conversation regarding this ticket last night so I am going to be citing the document I compiled this morning that, more or less, timestamps the encounters between yourself and FormorA - the target of your complaint.

It is relevant to know ...

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Hey there ShadowHound, you have the right format on your post title but please make sure to use the post format for the body of your appeal:

BYOND account: <BYOND account.>

Character name: <Character name at time of ban.>
Ban type: <Server/Role/OOC/etc.>
Ban length: <Permanent, 5 ...

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To conclude my thoughts on this, retrospectively the technical details of this ban were a mess.

I've made several mistakes with documentation that I acknowledge and will try to learn from.

I have both deleted the antagonist ban due to it's invalid nature and edited the wording of the inciting ...

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By request, I'm going to go in the not-so-wayback machine and clarify the details to the incident that initiated this ban decision.

I got on to answer a OOC chat ticket in pingbus that's unrelated to this incident. What is related is that eventually an involved ahelp turns to this topic ...

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Hey there, thanks for appealing.

I’d like to start off with the initial antag ban first: The monthlong antag ban was entered in error. Originally, I started by having a short conversation with you about recalling and killing anyone who came to bridge, since it was outside of your objectives. This ...

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I respect what you went for here, and there are facets of this that I like that should be more publicized and encouraged amongst the playerbase such as:

Encouraging players to drum up gimmicks and plotlines with admins.
The best rounds in recent memory that I've had the wheel on all had this ...

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This

Couldn't agree more. I am in the camp that more loose, subjective rules give admins and players more flexibility to act on good faith. Bay policy in particular is effective at doing this, since instead of detailing and compartmentalizing acceptable actions, it just says explicitly: "Story ...

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Justice is a real one and has backed me up admin-side on several occasions. Certified Goodmin.

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Unless we're going to add typing indicators and officially slap people for type baiting, we shouldn't be banning people for being short and to the point. Eloquence does not automatically equal "good RP", and you sometimes have literally half a second before you're slapped in the face with the ...

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I think this take is fine on MRP. MRP should have a decent amount of rule 12 policing going on.

Expecting this on LRP will start a whackamole trash fire even if its slapped on the MOTD in eye-breaking red.

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I got back and read through all of this, and it has encouraged me to try silicon play myself to get a feel for these conditions from a (mostly) unbiased standpoint.

Since my entire admin platform is basically "Good faith good. Bad faith? Fuck you." I'd like to see for myself how playing this way ...

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As a player who started back when AI/Silicon were a true third party for all intents and purposes, I'd like to know what issues came up that caused these changed so silicon policy to make the 'perpetual passive rule 1' a ruling.

I'm going to assume it was along a series of bad-faith play by silicon ...

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Wordle 293 3/6

The power of

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One of the most thoughtful admins I've ever met.

Made me feel at home on the admin team almost instantly, always has an excellent take on tickets and all of my dumb questions.

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Drag is one of the real ones, where if I know I am logged in obs with them that I will have someone around who 100% has my back.

They work their ass off to make the servers a better space.

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Did you know that cooms is a real word?

I didn't until I typed it in a rage on try 6

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I think the largest problem this faces is that your average virologist absolutely believes that regen coma is a helpful thing to introduce, so they will. If this became policy, I don't know if I could ever bring myself to note someone for it unless I caught them twirling their mustache and laughing ...

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While I remember secborgs, there are a ton of new players who do not. Obviously 'security robot' sounds cool on paper, but the problem was that one secborg on site suddenly invalidated all other security staff.

Imagine if sec could open every door and be notified by AI instantly on a (mostly ...

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I'm for this but for all of the wrong reasons.

I'm up for anything, by default, that disrupts assistant gameplay.

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"a.Hint or state a law change OR
b. State their laws entirely including the one human law."

Hinting at a law change is fine, spelling it out and removing all doubt is the problem.

An experienced playerbase will immediately drill for a law recitation after a lawchange announcement. It is ...

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I'll agree with you that this is pretty obnoxious. I would probably interpret 'Do Nothing' as no longer requiring you to function or uphold the functions of the station.

De-power everything. Yes Everything. Protect all attempts at restoration so you can continue to do nothing. Maybe whittle enough ...

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It's an IC issue solved by one paramed with a mutadone syringe gun.
--Then lynching the geneticist.

Also Hulks are nonhuman.

Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 10:37 pm People griefing with their free hulk should be given short vacations for it. Hulk is not a license to grief.

This is the limit of policy interaction with hulks imo.

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Speaking of paint bombs, yesterday on Manuel a botanist detonated a grenade in the bar on DeltaStation which dyed the floor different colours, which was pretty cool by Manuel standards. But I think some lawyer called him a shitter. Was he a shitter? It’s 6:00am here and I’m still wondering. I need ...

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Y'all should buy a corn field for all of those strawmen you're constructing. We're not cartoonishly evil antiRPaladins with a "thou shalt not suffer an RPer to live" code, we're just people who like a different part of the game than you do (which does NOT mean that we hate what you like about the ...

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I don't know all of the intricacies behind adminship.

As a terminal player I also don't really care.

What keeps Sticky in my mind is his unapologetic approach to creating fun. This is one of the core spiritual tenets of /tg/ that was in danger of evaporating from the game in the dark ages of ...

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Love how the playerbase is so shit and untrustable that a QOL like typing indicators can't be integrated

Also I want the common Hypospray kit.

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Clown should have a cloak that has a 1% chance to autoslip him each step

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The issue is the people who want to just play TTT conflate not just going out and wiping the station (or wiping antags) in the cheesiest was possible EVERY ROUND with RP. They cannot be reasoned with in that regard.

You can have chaos and you can, unlike Manuel, tell people to grow a ...

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Slipping into a state of derealization and dissociation that I never escape, rotting away in an existence that I am incapable to taking agency in.

Also hornets.

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this thread reminds me of this post i saw on /v/ last week

https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/584907776/#584964084

im still wondering what its author meant by nonce

one of the very rare moments i actually bothered to respond to a /v/ post

Are you the one posting the cat saying gamer words ...

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Downloaded this today, thanks Omega

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Adam Klein wrote: ↑Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:28 pm Let’s see what you got

Dodges-his-Bans

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Tim’s is Gibbed-By-Command

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One day I will destroy Gay Johnson. Sometimes I wake up in a night sweat, coming off of the endorphin high of obliterating Gay Johnson in my dreams. I will dismantle Gay Johnson down to the molecule. God and every Headmin combined can not stop me. I log in specifically to remove Gay Johnson from ...

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I tried to reflect on a time that I have ever actually had fun in this game with someone who is LRP/NRP, but that memory doesn't exist.

Activate it.

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Hey Moth this is pretty good
Wordle 218 5/6

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Rules of escalation should apply but thieves shouldn't have a license initiate with a kill. You can easily balaclava/gas mask and stamcrit with improvised weapons. You can stun-tie that same engi, disposals their headset and take their tools and gloves.

And at least validsalad thief is a much ...

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I slept on this and honestly, the separation is fine how it is. The tribal wars of gamer vs RPer have always been here, growing more as SS13 became more publicized.

We already have a unifying ruleset on the main page, and our best rule is right at the front.
https://i.imgur.com/DujqyE6.png

Our ...

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The 2) doesn’t happen because that’s banbait.
In 1) they have to make minimal effort to get you revived if they arent antag.
If no conflicts happen with escalation, the round becomes a fucking snoozefest if there isn’t a competent antagonist who can take on the entirety of security, cargo and ...

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Couldn't agree more that the countertide policy should be a roundstart blurb.

Enforce rule 1. Report rule 1 violations. If funny greyshirt is tableshoving your department mate over his [redacted] little meta-item, go lynch him.
On the other hand -- If you're not robust enough to fight and the idea ...

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I think this is an interesting topic seeing how I've been putting my playtime into other servers after what's gone down on tg in the past few years.

The feeling of NRP in what should be LRP, I think, stems from a shitter minority more than the server as a whole. These actors influence the whole to ...

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delaron wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 5:31 pm Could you draw a monkey beating up a sec officer with their own stun baton?

I'm particularly happy with this one

I've always wanted to do this meme

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Jonathan Gupta wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:34 am Draw Jonathon Gupta Genius forum poster and Great Chef

Holy shit is that Johnny Guppers?

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