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Frankly, the only way we can go about learning if you've changed is to give you the opportunity to prove it to us.
Don't expect nearly as much leniency as you had the first time around, but I'm going to un-ban you.

Well I had meant to post this a bit ago but the forums went down-

Feel free to comment on this, correct anything, or ask questions.
So, I'll be pretty forward with my thought process here. The playstyle of focusing on exploits and winning was entirely negative for the server, you were banned for ...

So, I want to address something.
Do you get why your playstyle was bad for the game?

Get rid of this shit!!!!

I retired because I disagreed with the current term, we'll see what they say it was for. I was burnt out and acting irrationally.

Xzero was an absolute joy to train, and seriously puts more time and effort into improving this game than most admins (including me). They've got a good head on their shoulders.

Xzero, what kind of steps are you going to take to learn more about LRP communities and get a feel for what they want?

Just did the un-ban, let me know if you have any issues connecting

I can absolutely say that TBM was an amazing headmin to work alongside. He has the game's best intentions in mind, and puts 110% into his efforts to improve things.

Ok got it, let me know if you can connect.

I can't fucking connect to the servers to unban you

Hi there Vecter, I confirmed your playtime with TGMC. It's good to see that you've taken steps to try new servers, and have taken yourself out of metacords that break rules. I think the lesson has been learned and I'm glad to welcome you back.

This already kind of has policy on mrp. For whatever reason if an antag is acting friendly you can just straight up kill them regardless of their actions...and on LRP it doesn't matter cause antags are all KOS anyways. Personally I feel like we should open more room for people to actually roleplay ...

At headmin request, humans_need_surnames has been disabled.

So it turns out the museum.dmm map (which I just found out existed) was never enabled. It's a gateway map merged some time ago, and I just turned it on.

I don't think this needs to be made policy. If you're a new character you aren't allowed to know anything from your old life, this obvious and having extra policy to do something you shouldn't be doing in the first place is just bloat.

Coward. I'm unbanning you.

Being very biased, I am incredibly proud of Xzero and their time here. They're a great admin, fun to be around, a great learner, and I look forward to seeing them in a game admin position.

Specifically, the issue is that your lawsets are in direct opposition to the majority of the crew as a whole.

You must always disagree with everyone on everything.
You must always be extermely rude
This just has an AI that will shut doors, possibly shock people, hamper the crew's ability to do ...

Since this lacks any response for over a week, I'm going to rephrase my question slightly to see if we can get a discussion going.

The note is accurate in the sense that you should be cautious when re-lawing the AI for gimmicks, as not to accidentally create a crew-opposed force that will cause ...

Edited down to minor

Anyways sure I'll drop the severity if it bothers you

I do not think any admins are going to see a note from 2023 and go "hey look a griefer", especially when the note says you were apologetic.

This note is so old that it won't even be taken into consideration, and note severity has even less basis for admin action.
Though full honesty my first thought was "no you ruined my goku event >:("

The issue here, as noted in the note, isn't the fact that you made fresh AI laws to keep the round interesting, but the fact that you made an AI lawset that was actively antagonistic to the crew. The two lawsets in question, and the ones you should be avoiding are these:

You must always disagree ...

I would advise you on your own time to apologize to the player, as well.

I genuinely appreciate the apology, and I am trusting that it is sincere. I'm going to be reducing this ban from the 21st to the 16th, making this a 9 day ban.

I've seen the appeal, just debating on how to proceed. I recognize and appreciate your apology for the way you acted.

I remember when I was at the code meeting and it was universally agreed upon that we need MORE antagonists to keep the game fresh and to make dynamic better. I don't think cutting half our antag roster is a good idea.

The ban's been edited down to a week.

So to preface before I get into this, I will be decreasing the time on this ban. I had genuinely believed you were a grief account with how you acted and responded.

The full ban reason is:
Banned from the server permanently - As a non-antag cargo tech, started throwing lemons at people randomly ...

Frankly, I've been saying to just disable assistant outright this entire time, but this works too. As a native Sybilian it'd be a welcome change.

Out of curiosity, what kind of play was making you believe they should be removed? Is this possibly a rules issue / enforcement issue and not a job ...

Great addition to the team, active in their own learning process.

Not-Dorsidarf wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 2:38 pm this might sound embarassing but I only realised Northstar has a massive service department just now when i looked it up on the webmap. I dont think i ever go there, or really to the entire zlevel.

Then that's part of my failure, and why I want to make a better map!

Oh, so what about meta-station makes it the most popular map besides for social inertia. Is there anything from Mehta that in particular makes it feel better to play?

It's been around the longest, it's relatively simple, and there isn't anything special about it. It's a perfectly serviceable ...

I want to design things around service being more open and central, so the kitchen's feel is likely going to stay.

Immediately upon me unbanning them, Avii Cinderfeather fucking shot themselves again.

That's actually bullshit the number was 7

So I've been informed that the discord roulette timer increases the more people use it, and you got shot for an exceedingly long amount of time. This is funny to me, and your ban appeal has been DENIED.

If you can guess the whole number I'm thinking of (between 1 and 10) I'll lift it.

I'm checking right now, hold on.

Bepis wrote: ↑Tue Apr 30, 2024 5:14 am do you still intend to have as many z-levels on the next iteration?

I want more, but I'm kind of forced to cut down to 3 until byond/whatever can reasonably handle 4+ zs

I'm out of college and now (slowly) working on North Star 2, that's the update!

PapaMichael wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:15 pm My concern is, to a casual player reading the rules, seeing something listed as a "roleplay rule" somewhat implies that it is not a rule on the LRP servers, ya feel?

When it kinda is, but it's not worded.

I totally get you, this should really just be global.

I kind of feel like this should just be part of rule 1, if it needs to be clarified.

This ruling is one that encourages interactions is a fun way. Instead of every single instance of sec and Borg conflict resulting in murder, both sides are somewhat limited in how they can approach the other, which in turn actually creates far more options for both.

In a hypothetical scenario where ...

The intent was a last second shitpost and not something to be done for an extended period of time. Leaking my own message in admin channels, I actively advised headmins to turn it off soon into the term.

Great up and coming admin. I really want to see them branch out to more servers though.

Jellypeople have been enabled as a roundstart race. Not the ones that split just the ones that die to toxin healing damage.

ConradThunderBunch has elected to retire to the old folk's home (for now).

Conrad has retired from the team, for now!

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