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Just get rid of rule 11 and the word filter. Vibe check people who you don't like.
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I get that isn't going to happen for a variety of reasons so I'll just say that rule 11/word filter was already the middle ground that favored the censorious crowd. Even so I think it's better if the status quo ...

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Since we are breaking out the red pens for this I gotta ask.

What is an example of metagaming that wouldn't be allowed per rule 4?

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Non-antagonists are allowed to get into conflicts with other non-antagonists with good in-character reasoning or when the conflict is appropriately roleplayed.

Use judgement based on how threatened you are, or how disruptive somebody is being, to determine if the severity of your actions ...

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this asks, more or less, that whatever starts a conflict be worth how it ends up progressing - it's expected that if you're starting a conflict with somebody over something petty, that you take care to watch the line in how far you're taking it. i'll see if this can be worded in a more natural way ...

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At the end of the day is Robust Mctider gets converted and decides to grow weed instead of playing cultist they aren't assisting to the best of their ability. If as some admins have said in this chat that they're only going to enforce the rule if they're being a dick about then just remove this ...

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I'm still firmly on the side of "If you don't want to play a conversion antag, you should ask for a job ban from that antag". There's no reason not to.

I'm actually really confused by this because you were one of the admins in the other thread saying

I can't speak for other admins, but I ...

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I am a really big fan of Northstar's maint. The fact that so many normally super secure areas are just one reinforced wall away typically to a very low traffic area due to how squished in everything has to be is a really cool interaction. Everything from most head lockers to the bridge being one ...

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The difference is that wgw broke the rules and ligger explicitly doesn't.

We made WGW against the rules because people were using it to escalation bait and we ended up deciding it was better to just ban it than to deal with all the people doing it. There was a long period where WGW didn't ...

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The difference is that wgw broke the rules and ligger explicitly doesn't.

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Framing others for ligger is cool and based way to push back against the terrible policy this headmin term has instituted.

Framing people for stuff that makes them valid (wgw, killing Ian, cutting down the Christmas tree) has been one of the most soulful things this game has to offer.

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How can you say that when I asked you about what context it could be appropriate in and you told me that it doesn't exist.
E: you are even doing it in the peanut thread. If you just wanna say "listen man I was just memeing in that ticket I don't actually believe what I told you" then just ...

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How can you say that when I asked you about what context it could be appropriate in and you told me that it doesn't exist.
E: you are even doing it in the peanut thread. If you just wanna say "listen man I was just memeing in that ticket I don't actually believe what I told you" then just own it ...

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How can you say that when I asked you about what context it could be appropriate in and you told me that it doesn't exist.
E: you are even doing it in the peanut thread. If you just wanna say "listen man I was just memeing in that ticket I don't actually believe what I told you" then just own it.

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So I ask when it would be ok to say rape, you say never as this is a video game, I say I disagree, then you say that's cool but you gotta follow rule 8 if you wanna stick around. Is it really that far-fetched of a conclusion to come to that you think that any mention of rape in game would fall under ...

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I do not assume that when someone ahelp asking a question especially in regards to a recent note that they are you know, just asking your opinion on the matter. They are probably asking the admin about rule policy.

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Yes I am appealing the note,

Your use of it in this context did not fall into any acceptable space that your linked example did, were spoken to about that, and a minor note was added that we had the conversation in the event that you decided to continue doing it in the future.

So just to ...

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You know what man that is not a problem at all. I would love a headmin review of this.

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I wouldn't open this up by contradicting yourself as you said in the ticket before not to use it as a "joke line", as in you know full well that I wasn't attempting to accuse sec of sexual assault. Yes I am appealing the note, now respond to the arguments given. Do you think why do you think that ...

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I'd really appreciate it if you'd read the appeal before responding.

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BYOND account: B00t
Character name: Zion SLR
Ban type: Note
Ban length: Note
Ban reason: Yelled 'RAPE' during a search, was spoken to about it.
Time ban was placed: 2023-07-23 02:51:51
Server you were playing on when banned: Sybil
Round ID in which ban was placed: Round ID, should be present ...

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I wish I could go back to 8chin but people who also wanna take away ligger got it nuked from orbit.

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That's part of the issue is that we have a conflicting precedent. Current president is that if I leave pills that kill you labeled death on the floor I'm good because only a retard is going to eat these.

It's only after this latest ban that this idea that if you set up the dominos but someone else ...

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So a big question I have is how does this play into the pill example.

If I make a pill that says "100% instant death you will die" and someone eats it then I am not at fault. However if someone then force feeds the clown this pill am I going to get bwoinked?

If I build a suicide machine in the ...

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This isn't an issue. Just wait a month.

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Okay, so the main reason I noted you for it involves the Gimmick Exemption itself, specifically that it's to enable "interesting, entertaining or plain fun character gimmicks".

There is no rule regarding a "gimmick exemption."

The Gimmick Exemption: Names that lean on or are technically in ...

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https://i.imgur.com/cM0xriR.png

Born halfway through the tech advancing Zion is pretty humanized culturally mostly due to all the new stuff that came to being during their childhood.
The day the breakroom got a new coffee machine was the greatest day of their life.
Tends to be territorial with ...

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Turbonerd wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 12:17 am A felinid saying "uwu" or "owo" in real life sounds pretty plausible. If we have cat girls, then cat girl RP should be allowed, as long as it's not overdone or excessive.

you know what I agree with you let's just get rid of catgirls.

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Since we seem to be talking alot about powergaming I thought I'd bring up something that I've seen alot recently. Round starts and some member of sec runs off to secure metal, cables, and welder fuel to make sure that their shotguns can be loaded with the most lethal ammo they can get their hands on ...

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Ok here's the best thing I could think of that we could compare it to.

Let's say that you arrest 2 people on tramstation. Maybe they roughed up another officer so you toss them into general population. During this time a fight starts and one ends up dead.

Do you think that the Warden knowing that ...

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Add the largest fish to the highscore board.

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Starting off weak as heck complaining about lack of alignments or racial scores, it makes me really concerned about what you consider important to make settings or races 'cool'. It's like /tg/ posters who complain about stuff I basically agree with only to figure out down the line they spend four ...

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Preach it, anything more than basics of lore should be kept in sourcebooks since its always shooed away by half the non faerun settings anyway

So when SpellJammer comes out and they still don't got the alignments or ASI's. When they still gut what makes the races cool because "Oh no we don't ...

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I think that the leap from errata to we're basically gonna make the old books you bought get phased out because the woke brigade showed up is a shame.

However if you wanna look for the worst change done is has to be the Drow. "Oh that whole Lolth worshiping that we hammered home in every single ...

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- Organ steal would be cooler except for that there are now humans in the morgue roundstart and keeping organs fresh is difficult, especially because nothing but organ smartfridges is clearly a way to do that, BUT this means you have a good reason to cause chaos to call the shuttle before your ...

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I still think that putting it as a cargo upgrade or station random perk thing or whatever its called could be neat. I also really like the idea of unlocking different markets.

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If filtering a word, soft or hard, would cause even one person to not leave because they arn't being bothered by the flippant use of that word would you be for it no matter the insult?

Calling people cancer or retarded is pretty mundane. I also really like how "gamer word" has morphed ...

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This thread is very corporate and isn’t moving at all. I’d like to hear from people affected by this sort of thing and what they think about it.

I've played a load of hardcore random and people using my disabilities to their advantage is a big part of it. Whether it is sec breaking my glasses or ...

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I just don't agree with your assessment Goof, Detective is the only security role that I play because it isn't a sec officer. If I am watching the cams and I see something, radio it in, If we have other sec they are going to check into it.

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Maybe I don't come to the LRP server to do roleplay for an hour and a half while the 3 thieves sit on their hoard. If the station hasn't had any major threats after an hour I don't see the harm in asking for a shuttle vote.

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Also I would argue that security arming up pre-emptively can and should be punished already, well before rule 12. There are plenty of notes out there for people who would crack the armory open for no reason or gear up with shotties roundstart just because they like shotguns. Frankly the ...

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Rule 11 covers racism against white people, this is mentioned in the admin conduct rule 11 enforcement guidelines.

HOWEVER

The common sense clause precludes treating cracker as inherently bannable as some of the other slurs banned.

tl;dr: i unironically agree with sticky

I was under the ...

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Rule 11's goal is to be used in good faith against players(and admins) who use bigoted language to intentionally demean and/or offend. Cracker simply doesn't have any offensive weight to it. There is no fair comparison with it's use compared to every other racial slur in existence as of this post ...

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In a recent round I noticed a player, during a back and forth of insults, call another play a "cracker". I ahelped an admin to let them know about the breach in rule 11 and I was informed that "It is our consensus that it is not equal to other racial slurs covered by Rule 11." I was looking around ...

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if I tell a borg to wall around blue apcs inorder to get them out of direct line of sight from people walking through the area am I now "playing to win"?

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Pandarsenic wrote: ↑Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:07 pm They don't even have the advantage of bedsheet capes, which is you can use them to start surgeries

Sounds like a good idea. Or maybe give that to the CMO and give little bonuses to the others if they don't already. Doesn't the CE's give some rad resistance?

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Given that it has been brought up again I think its reasonable to revive this.

Given that you're unable to immediately end the round by bombing a Traitor, doing so is pretty much universally considered thinly veiled grief.

I'm not sure if the admin knows this or not but you can't end the round ...

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I'd say go further and remove non-humans from sec roles.

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The issue with adding in slurs is that what is a slur is such a grey issue. It sounds easy when you start with shit like Nigger or Kike, but when we get into stuff like Kraut, Yankee or Jap its gets abit more murky imo. Like the first two for our Western population have a gut visceral reaction but ...

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Fatal wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:59 am -snip-

I more then understand this but the current headmen ruling is not this and the old one is being brought up in ban appeals so my point was that its time to update it to stop mentioning "rounds" or be retried like the other rulings that mentioned them.

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An example of this is suicide bombing a wizard or BoH bombing the cult base. If use of the weapon does not win the round for your side immediately after, then it is grief and will be treated as such by admins.

Since we are on dynamic now ought this ruling be archived rulings or should it be ...

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