/tg/Station 13

I liked our old rule 3. I'm glad to see it return even if its rule 12 now. The fact it was ever removed was the biggest disgrace to the /tg/ spirit I've seen in a while.

This is a roleplaying game. The purpose of the game is to have fun roleplaying. Being an asshole, who ruins other player’s ...

The ban's been lifted and you should have no issues connecting to the server.

Yeah I can remove the note since building uranium blocks isn't an issue anymore so there is no point in you having a note saying you shouldn't. I do wish to point out though that notes aren't only given when the player is believed to be malicious or incompetent, they are also (like in this case ...

Relevant Admin and ASAY logs for Round 159480 are below. I've cut out a large amount of ASAY that was either redundant or irrelevant for this appeal and given that ASAY is a confidential channel I don't wish to reveal more than is necessary. If a headmin thinks I should include the entirety of the ...

I'll be posting the full admin logs for the round (including ASAY as there is some stuff in there that is relevant and does make the situation a bit more complex) but one important thing I'd like to note immediately is that Paxil is the person who made ISS. They chose to end a round for self serving ...

I'll lift the ban and trust that you won't do anything like that ever again.

Random event antags should not be spawned by dynamic. Space Dragon, Blob, Space Ninja, Nightmare, Abductors and Alien Infestation should all cost 101 just like Swarmers. Our random event system has handled their spawning just fine. We don't need two sources of them.

Certain antags should be added ...

The fact spiders do not need any resource to reproduce means that the optimal strategy is to just hide in some corner of maint, produce babies for 15 minutes, then suicidally swarm the station with nigh infinite numbers. The times I've seen spiders lose after pulling off this strat is when someone ...

I was sent evidence of you threatening to evade the ban so I placed a stickyban pre-emptively. It's been lifted as the ban is still Rave's.

Logs are taken from: https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/manuel/data/logs/2020/10/08/round-147926/
For a full breakdown of what happened. I get an ahelp from someone asking me to deal with you since you apparently are not playing security was they put it and just seem to be griefing. I go and look ...

I'll explain my reasoning for assuming you were just a random griefer in a few moments. The fact you appealed/complained makes me believe you are not actually a ban evader/griefer so I will gladly lift the ban. The VPN thing I realized after I banned you was false and just your IP address changing ...

I cannot edit policy or the rules myself, if the headmins wish to enshrine not cheating into the rules that is their decision.

In regards to punishing you: I gave you a note. I know a lot of players feel they are a punishment but they are necessary to keep track of what players have been warned not ...

I got headmin clarification on the issue and I had thought I told you the result, maybe I forgot since it did take 50 minutes for me to get a response from a headmin, my apologies if I did indeed forget. Regardless I was told that yes, using macros to gain an advantage like that is not allowed. Not ...

Thanks for explaining. I've unbanned you as you don't have a history of shuttle grief and pretty clearly understand why what you did was bad.

Denied. I am absolutely certain that you are spencleb.

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as i said in the original post of this thread, "and yes obviously someone mentioned this to me, but honestly i just wanted to talk to it please don't focus on that part"

it was mentioned to me by someone who cares about me and didnt want me to get hurt, they didnt want any ...

Bobbah, I have some genuine questions for you. Why is it only now that your chat with Nervere, Wilchen and Jmad has been leaked that you realize they were a toxic influence on you? Furthermore, how did you even know it was leaked? Given where the leaks were posted you shouldn't be aware of the fact ...

National Guard units and other military units are useful for putting riots to an end (See: LA Riots), but saying "When the looting starts the shooting starts" is just barbaric.

Please code these code changes you'd like to see then. Once these code changes are completed then rev and cult can have their odds increased. Until then reduce the odds high conflict gamemodes.

Since apparently I wasn't clear enough about this in my first post I will make it crystal clear here ...

Since multiple people here have mentioned rule enforcement to force people to RP in gamemodes like rev and cult I'd like to ask them to please write out specific policy for these gamemodes that would allow for RP to be feasibly enforced. The current rules are very loose and work well in low ...

I have lifted the ban that caught you for some reason as it should be lifted anyway due to the fact it is a permaban for something we don't permaban for any more. If you have issues connecting let me know.

Some left when the Artyom split happened, a lot left when Artyom died, and most of those still around left when Basil got put on the hub, or when Basil was down for the majority of December 2015 for no apparent reason. Some are still around though.

Whether people like this or not moving to discord has made adminbus much more of a community than it was before. In the past removing someone for inactivity was no issue since the person was inactive both ingame and in IRC. However now people who no longer administrate the game stick around in the ...

I'm not a headmin anymore so what I say isn't policy anymore. However your rule 8 ban and this rule 8 ban are very different due to the context of these comments. I'll break down my views on them.

In Wesoda's ban he made sexual joke comment at his friend as well as some other jokey meme comments ...

Telling someone if their killer is an antag is a good idea. You can already ahelp to get the same result so this will just save time for both parties. It will also mean that the admins that reply "It's valid" instead of "He is antag" will no longer confuse new players with their coyness.

I knew this day would come. I just wished I would be dead before it did.

Joking aside, that's... actually a bit of an iffy one, to be honest. On one hand, it is text speech, on the other it still leans in closer towards Kek and wew than stuff like lol. I guess I'm just gonna lean on "undecided ...

This ban is perfectly fine by me. Reminder: Rule 1: Don't be a dick. Critting someone because they didn't want to do their job how YOU wanted them to is being a fucking dick. Nor is it at all acceptable under these escalation rules (or the past ones) to crit someone because they didn't do their job ...

I figured I'd just pop in to say that he did pm me on August 10th to ask for feedback actually. He seemed to take what I told him seriously and I haven't noticed the issues that I brought up happen since. So he did at least time the criticism I gave him and tried to improve.

I'll just post here for posterity sake, but I've changed my mind since your ingame ban. You can stay gone honestly.

This ban is one of the worst I've seen in awhile. There was literally zero harm in what Hathkar did nor was there any malicious intent. He doesn't even have any notes for bad silicon play so I don't know why this was even a ban in the first place. I'm going to lift the ban and remove the note.

Like ...

Possibly me.

He's pointing out that Haku is lying about accidentally joining with an account made for Citadel station. This is something that I already knew, and I think Sticky did too, but I do appreciate him posting that.

lmao, one of these threads again. Don't directly reference the bad guys on the station being antagonists, its pretty simple. Netspeak or OOC in IC, which is what that is, has never been allowed. Just because it doesn't get caught every time it happens doesn't mean its allowed.

Asimov borgs and AIs are free to harm holoparasites as much as they damn well please. IC reasoning for this as that previous thread said is because borgs and AIs don't know that damaging the parasite damages the human. OOC reasoning is that outside of direct damage borgs and AIs have no way to deal ...

Like Tribe told you in your appeal there is a big difference between sending retarded interstation messages and people spamming nonsense in OOC before the round starts. As Citrus said things are determined on a case by case basis, and in this case the spam wasn't disruptive in the slightest; simply ...

The ban is completely justified. It could be edited to say that the SM being delaminated wasn't your fault. I took a look at your notes and the length is a bit harsh but not something I'd consider overly harsh. This is denied.

You can metagrudge as a solo antag to your hearts content.

I'm resolving this since nothing else needs to be said.

You can plan some things. We've had a long term precedent that you can say what job you're planning on playing. If you and another want to do a gimmick together you can plan it out. Of course things will be on a case by case basis as always. As a general rule if what you plan to do would get you ...

Current policy is generally no. Really severe things may get you banned if you admit to them years later, but multiple players and admins have admitted to metacommunicating when they first started playing and were not punished for it.

Denied. It is irrelevant to me (and the other headmins) if the grudge ausops had for you came from EVE. The fact you are still deflecting all blame for your actions onto other people shows me you haven't changed since you were banned. I'll be locking and resolving this in 24 hours.

Rule 4 straight up says not to abuse bugs. If we don't allow antags to abuse bugs then it should be obvious we don't let normal roles abuse them.

I would actually at least have banned the guy for ban baiting if you had told me that and it had been the case. Helping revs while implanted is also bannable. Regardless its been so long I don't remember any of this nor do I want to take the effort log diving. I'll just remove the note since you've ...

So why didn't you tell me the whole context at the time then?

It collides at the exact same point griefing normal people do FNR does. If you really have to ask "am I being a dick?" you likely are and should maybe stop. This is also a really nebulous question and things involved with rule 1 will always be on a case by case basis. As such there's nothing really ...

This situation is very dumb. Tonto go remake your appeal in a serious manner (visible text, an actual reason why you should be unbanned instead of a joke suggestion) As for everyone else involved; take this as a lesson on why you should treat all complaints and appeals seriously. Don't just brush it ...

The current policy is fine. People can break the egg and people can kill people who do it against the will of captain and/or RD.

I'm not sure why this was left open when he has been deadminned.

Denied. Go find another community to play with and maybe take this as a life lesson on how your actions can have long term consequences for you. Everyone here hates you now and I don't see you ever being unbanned.

This is not a valid complaint. Admins are not omnipotent and being wrong isn't a black mark on them.

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