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So to summarize:

We need an outside of the game policy that references an outside of the game D&D Manual on how you should interpret the personality of your AI, because some assholes where abusive and the administration was unable to justify stopping / punishing them via rule 0?

How the fuck have ...

Enforce strict population-cap to force people to play on the almost empty 2nd server.
Better performance for everyone!
Or as Thunderchief suggested: New bigger map!

@Jacquerel:
The metaphor is accurate and it's color distribution was picked exactly because of that.

@Falamazeer:
Please do not state "my interpretation", when you then state things that are not possible under my interpretation. I harm others under paladin, sure, but I have only one confirmed kill ...

It's very clear that the dress was gold to you and is blue to me. It's also very clear that you are aware of your position of power and my lack of power, and that you think it's okay to use said power to win an argument without arguing on your part.

You can argue a lot of things, for example that law-sets that do not have clear instructions need to be removed or that black is a color because our brains perceive it as such, or that moral relativity is true because we have a server policy on it, and in one of those cases I'd even agree with you ...

What Scott said. Also:

Not sure if I am inadequate at expressing my ideas or what the problem is therefore a rephrasing:

The policy prevents me and others in choosing how to play Paladin and forces us into a narrow boring and predefined interpretation.
The policy therefore takes a way a lot of ...

I was murderbonering as clown with the help of bananapeels, a rad-suit and a supermattershard as a changeling spamming the pancreas-thingy and fleshmend.

My first round as rounstart-clown in 18+ months
Changeling despite not actually wanting to do shit
Decide not to do shit then (especially not LSD ...

DISCLAIMER / TLDR:
Since people have a problem understanding what I mean, I added this:
To me a paladin AI can not kill, as killing would be evil / would be a conflict with helping those in need. Regardless if the lifeform in case is a xeno, human, lizard or ling!
A paladin AI can not grief others ...

You people need to decide if you want silicones to be

impotent dicksucking slaves

or

all capable omnipotent monsters

Before thats decided stop messing with shit.

Reimoo wrote:Science has the greatest affinity with the silicons. I find it silly that the path to the core is in engineering on both box and meta.

Distribution of power. Sci has too much fun & power already, without any requirements to full fill a job.
Don't give them the AI proximity on top of that.

AI /Borg player's perspective:

I get validhunt-laws uploaded in 1/3rd of the rounds.
There's a server-policy forcing me to allow such uploads, at the threat of a silicon-/server-ban.
Players freak out both in IC and OOC if you do not let them validhunt (read kill) / do not validhunt yourself
Yet ...

Bring back Terbs.

I reactivated my forumaccount AND linked it for the CIA-Fascist to my Byond-Account just to post here.
Last marathon sucked, I was bored, as the only engineer then who did repairs felt frustrated.
Decided to take non important job so I can fuck off after super-matter engine was started.
Let's say I ...

Best thing ever happened to tgstation!

guys i found this cool solution to you getting bullied when you play clown

don't play clown

seriously all the shitter clown players, you brought this on yourself stop being crybabies unironically

Basically this for other reasons.

I never, even once, griefed as clown and was "validly" killed ...

Yeah, filling Distro with air is actually SOP for atmos - That's what happens when you replace the important pumps with volumetric pumps. If you include that under bannable metagaming, just remove atmo tech altogether and put the pipe dispensers in tool storage.
Since you seem unwilling to respond ...

Reminder: My post was about start-of-the-round "fixing" of atmos. Thus the "remainder of the round" are 20 to 45++ minutes.

To clarify: I am talking about dumping (almost) the entire o2 and nitrogen tank into the distro, via filters or over-pressurised cans and the like. Which also tends to happen ...

Definition for this post: Banable metagaming : Using prior round knowledge or ooc knowledge to mess with antagonist/round types.

Examples of bannable metagaming currently enforced via policy:
- We ban AI's for round start bolting / messing with the following areas at round start: Toxins, Telesci ...

1. Chiefly British: A fellow; a guy.
2. Vulgar: A penis.
3. Vulgar: A person, especially a man, regarded as mean or contemptible
4. Vulgar, Slang: A detective.

The law, even if 3 is chosen, would still be very bad, as the AI would need an understanding of humans perception and classifications ...

Removing AI interactable parts from atmos is sabotage and stops the AI from preventing a plasmaflood.
It should be handled IC.

Fuck you policy-mongers.

A command: AI, do not let the clown into the brig.
A conflicting command: AI, disregard that order and open the brig door for me. HONK!

A requirement: #4 You may only open doors and airlocks for crewmember with legitimate acess.
A conflicting command to above requirement: AI, open the door to the ...

Who ever took the time to write the policies at the start of this thread is fabulous! I just want you to know that I want your e-babies!

I'd like to dedicate this forum post to you, current, future and past participants. The players, draw-fags, player-advocates, coders, homepage providers, maintainers, admins, forum posters and SOS (in no particular order)!

A long time ago:

Be CE
Be tator, steal magboots
Adminhelp for diffrent goal
Steal blueprints
...
Rly?
Yarly!
Do CE stuff
Science gets bombed
Repair it
a bloodied HoS races in
Stuns me, strips me, keeps batting me with a batton
HoS: "MAGBOOTS AND BLUEPRINTS! YOU ARE A TATOR!"
Me: "There's no air ...

SafeguardAI: Great News everyone. I turned any further crew-transfers thus no one can be replaced. Please line up infront of the nearest meatgrinder or force has to be applied. Thank you for your cooperation!