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Brotemis is a oldmin but I haven't seen him online enough on sybil during his trialminship. Thus I can't make a determination on his current standing

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Scones is online enough to be a admin. He needs to mind his temper though.

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What the admins should've done is either:
-a: Told the officer to stop being a fuck knuckle and let Oldman go
-or b: used their fucking admin tools to spawn Oldman the tools needed to escape and made him a semi-antag with a "Get revenge" objective - JUST LIKE WE DID IN THE OLD DAYS!

This. A ...

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I'm curious what people's opinions are if Devin is taken out of the picture and it was just me bombing a gulag shuttle and killing Saphira.

My opinion is this: you should have adminhelped the situation before it spiraled out of control.

If Saphira was being a shit then its our job to look into ...

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200 Points in the gulag is ~two minutes worth of mining. This is in no way "Taking someone out of the game"

You're high. Those estimates on the wiki are wildly off. That's like, 10~ minutes worth plus the other shittery the officer perpetuated (holding someone with no crime for 10+ minutes ...

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"I'm being put in prison, better explode"

Was he aware he was getting a sentence? I sort of felt like it was implied to be a VERY extended stay, not to mention the fact that he had already been held for a long-ass time.
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If he has ever been gulag'd then I would think that it is heavly ...

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I was "minorly" invloved in this ban. Longbowman was the primary admin involved.

Phil (who is a coder and not involved in admin stuff to my knowlege) asked on IRC for some admins to handle the situation so a few of us got on.

Essentially he had given Oldman a 200 point goal after 200 points of ...

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I looked into this (log diving) and they were being a little bit shity. That being said most of it doesn't warrant any action. I'll direct them to this thread next time I see them.

I considered posting the logs but it was a long ass round and I'd have to edit damn near everything. Instead here is ...

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From my point of view he's a pretty good administrator. He helps out, always pitches in and is a all around nice guy. Everything else is moot. Forum disagreements and drama is something else to be handled by head admins or through the admin complaints I believe.

Could be wrong about that though.

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The thermite thing and the neurotoxins make it a problem. If a person should be making any type of request it would be the CMO. This sounds like IC escalation.

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Not a fan of these rounds because people the next round confuse the previous rounds rules.

IE Next round
A help "I was dancing on a table and I got robusted"
Investigation
"Isn't it still low rules round? I'm sorry I robusted the clown for being on top of the table but its low rules so anything ...

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I was a cultist that round, and the round wasn't going to work regardless, half of the cultists had no idea what to do anyways. They weren't cooperating for the most part anyways, Sofo and Abdul only started bombing once the shuttle was literally like 2 minutes from the station. Also, Oldman ...

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Scones wrote:Guy's name is Sofo (Not solo), by the way, for anyone log diving. Ckey is Sofo.

Can't find any mention of an Abdul Kabab.

His name is IshcabobMohamad/In game Abdul Kabob

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I'm looking into the logs. It seems someone already beat you to it.
05:11:23]ADMIN: HELP: ##############): Welp just going out on a limb here Abdul Kabob (ishcabob Mohamad), or Sofo Oofs(sofo) Tried blowing up their only objectives in a team round which led to the whole team losing. Ruining it for ...

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If anyone needs to be a admin it's Shadowlight. He's kind and considerate. He knows how to admin and he is very solid. +1

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I like him he's on loads and he's a great person. +1

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There should be a way to see when a admin is on and how often they are online. Just for fun statistic purposes.

cultist-chan

Here's what I'm thinking about prison station. It looks cool but it needs to be fleshed out more.

If you want I could come up with something. However the biggest thing I think it needs is a security C&C room thats isolated from the rest of the station.

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So I can potentially make up baseless information on singulo and get people I don't like banned now? Neat.
The information wasn't baseless. I quoted and linked the logs that showed him killing as a non-antag and that proved he wasn't an antagonist, which was contrary to what Corruptroulette had ...

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Fun to hang out with during late night hours while admining. Even if he lives on a isle full of convicts.

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mrpain wrote:So I can potentially make up baseless information on singulo and get people I don't like banned now? Neat.

It means I'll try to look through logs if people claim something needs investigating. I'll listen to people if I can. I'm trying to not be shit. I fear I am failing.

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Pointing this out is more for their benefit than anyone elses. A FNR thread with a lack of information leads to all sorts of suspicion and wild conclusions, none of which CC can afford right now. Anyway, I asked CC what happened, then asked them to put into the thread what they told me, which is ...

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As a bartender Balanar Fringmich(forsakenme) shot up three people causing two to die. A two day ban has been implemented, one for each person killed.

I was under the impresson that ammetik wanted me to post a FNR about this.

Edit
I resolved this situation here's the logs, he killed both ...

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Even If Kor fires my ass, I still have to respect him for what he's done for the community. He's a very good headmin and I think him and sticky seem very balanced and fair.

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Seems like a nice guy.

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Context is pretty important, I cbf logs but from what's in this thread, disarming and stunning a HoS after they come at you unprovoked isn't greytiding. As far as I recall as a player, the HoS was going around being generally shit to catpeople so it's things like that you want to look into or at ...

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I get up and disarm him, stun him with his baton and run away.

Let me sum it up for you. I warned both you and him to knock it off. I'm sorry if that's not a harsh enough punishment for him sentencing you incorrectly.

The other situation is: I stepped on the other admins toes and apologized ...

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While I disagree with him and I might have stepped on his toes he seems like a alright fellow, he makes good points and is a good counterweight to me even if I don't want to hear them. I'd rather have someone who steps up and teaches me even if I'm being a git than being quiet about it.

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Well the important thing here is not whether or not security will lose, but giving security players a chance to participate beyond getting killed.

So you think a crew victory should be impossible in gang? They're the background third party, not a driving force like in rev. The distinction here ...

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Make Plasma men playable as a race.

If you do I'll meekly submit to your totalitarian coder rule.

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Scones wrote:I was under the impression nuke suits were in fact acid immune.

Chemistry is horridly strong right now and does not need QoL buffs to grenades of all things. Use foam.

Nuke suits were never immune. Chem isn't horridly strong. Acid should burn through stuff. What would you suggest I use?

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We rarely seem to find a happy middle ground with acids either it is useless or a near assured game ending weapon. At least destroying masks is what I want really it allows silly stuff like melting peoples internals off so they suck in deadly smoke or gas.

2-3 good acid grenades (IE with mutagen ...

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Litches are fun, I'll give you that but they are a bit overpowered as is. RISE is a great spell and kinda a no brainer at this point. The issue I have with it is that nobody can ever find the litches phylactery. I think it needs to be more obvious like it glows occasionally. In addition it shouldn't ...

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i disagree. more bodies is always better. more bodies gives you

greater stun soaking as a unit

much more health as a unit

many more hands to carry tools, guns, manipulate technology, etc

much harder to surround and disarm spam

more ability to drag (important crew or friendly ops to safety ...

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So me and Miauw both opened up pull requests for economy around the same time, so I figured I would make my own feedback thread since he has one as well. His thread may be viewed at https://tgstation13.org/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3993.

Like Miauw, I am working on creating a modular economy ...

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Why aren't nuke ops scaled in member count already? Bonus TC scaling only serves to make them more robust.

They already have:
a) A bunch of free weapons. The shotguns kick ass against anyone who isn't spamming tasers.
b) 20 base TCs in their uplinks.
c) 30 TCs of free C4, minibombs and bombs.
and ...

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You dunn good coding this.

That being said you need to come up with a better way that security can deal with gangs. Currently I haven't seen the gangs fail.

That being said its a super fun round. Thanks!

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My issue is with https://github.com/tgstation/-tg-station/pull/10085 that merged today

Tested stuff a bunch today. I have to say I don't like it at all. Polyacid grenades don't work that well. In fact it doesn't work that well at all now. I splashed a traitor wearing the blood red space suit with ...

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The head of personnel needs reworking. There should be a failsafe system where it requires department heads to sign off on things like all access. I think it would be easier to mess with the code for the ID computers than enforce this. In addition get some pre-made paperwork for them. Making premade ...

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Remie Richards wrote:More hostile wildlife.

How about we throw the clown out there. Without a suit. Honk

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Currently, Ripleys do not really work on the east side of the asteroid due to the hostile wildlife. What, if anything do you feel should be done?

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ALAS POOR SYBIL
I KNEW THEE WELL

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I'd appreciate it if you would PM me with whatever grievances you have against me gives you this opinion. Maybe I'm completely forgetting something important, I apologize if that's the case.

I remember November 2011 in particular you were ragging on me. I don't have any grievances with you, you ...

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The whole name thing is getting a little ridiculous. As I'm looking further into this, I do have a question for you.

What was the deal with you and the clown? Why were you sending him down disposals in handcuffs after stunning him?

It was supposed to be a joke. I would have said "into the ...

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It's an open discussion. Any admin is welcome to come on in here and comment on it.

For that matter obviously the clown or the AI or borg, anyone else who might've been involved with what happened too.

Thats fine. I don't want you ruling on it. I don't want you involved from this point on ...

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An0n3 wrote:It's an open discussion. Any admin is welcome to come on in here and comment on it.

For that matter obviously the clown or the AI or borg, anyone else who might've been involved with what happened too.

Thats fine. I don't want you ruling on it. I don't want you involved from this point on.

cultist-chan

Your argument is that it wasn't okay for the AI to order you terminated as a cultist because you didn't really harm the clown and therefore you shouldn't have counted as a Cultist. And we should ban the AI for ordering your termination as a non-cultist.

If you do want to split that hair looking ...

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But it totally does?

You were beaten by an AI who identified you as a Cultist during a Cult round.

While playing as a character named Cultist Chan.

No, the ai didn't identify me because of my name. It literally said because I was harming the clown. Quit trying to push your own theories. I get ...

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It's in the rules:

Part 9 of the Roleplaying section covers names:

Pick a normal name. You must not use honorifics or nick names (E.g. Dr Greg House or Jack "Johnny" Johnson), and must be spelt fully with capitals and no shortenings (e.g. NOT J Hoffman or jaiden mallow). Exceptions to this are ...

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