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Somepan

Thank you timber.

Somepan

BYOND account : Somepan

Ban/note type : Forum

Ban/note reason : Calling the host (MSO) a manchild
Time ban was placed : I can't see it anymore :( like a few months ago

Why are you making this appeal? (Put an x in the boxes):
() - The ban/note is factually incorrect
(X) - The ban/note is not ...

Somepan

If that's it, idk how that's a crab bucket. Pretty fucking bad faith to assume I'm "dragging somepan for speaking out". This isn't speaking out, it's indulging in pointless behaviour that serves no purpose other than continue an argument that won't end.

There's a difference between speaking out ...

Somepan

I crossed your line. I had always stuck my toes in administration decisions. 3 headmin terms failed to agree on an anti-bigotry or hate-speech rule so I just made one. You weren't complaining then.

So, you agree with it, but don't like that its me saying it, but also you say you stepped down ...

Somepan

i think dendy's right about this being really pointless self-harming behaviour but unfortunately banning somepan wouldnt stop her from viewing the forum while offline

it's not exactly self harming, this all doesn't harm me. If anything it gives me catharsis, i don't care about being banned ...

Somepan

Yeah but what are you trying to achieve?

>i'm probably his number 1 hater
>once i've seen it, i will just speak about it
>someone showed me this on discord

Honestly this is just sounds like a shit hobby fr

Listen i'm not saying it's healthy, but some people's hobbies just suck. Some people ...

Somepan

Genuine question, do you lurk the forums waiting for something MSO related? Half of your first page of recent posts is that. Every time there's mention of any of the controversial stuff MSO talks or is related to, you show up with two cents.

I don't mean this as a jab but what are you trying to ...

Somepan

I feel like this has been a problem with the admin team in general. Of course they're all friends, it's normal when you play a game with someone for a while, so whenever one admin falls under criticism at least one other person with a colored name is keen to swoop in and defend them before the ...

Somepan

and who's not straight up sucking up to you.

i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are not trying to infer this about me by saying this. the inherent misogyny of implying that someone's independent perspective doesn't correlate with your own could only be because ...

Somepan

i was a jannie,

just gonna quote the admin announce i left that caused somepan to ragequit the admin team:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/766775266252816425/1314678584060940318/image.png?ex=6754a557&is=675353d7&hm=8772d0d91516bdb7a587951cfe46aabf66486efe2f9ba2bf05bd1273f7aa8810&
(it ...

Somepan

For someone who says you never want to think about MSO, you sure think about him a lot.

It's hard not to, i was a jannie, i've seen that most admins are actually sensible people despite the times they get put on blast for the one or two abuse of powers that happen ever 5 years. MSO is a stain ...

Somepan

what would those errors be? not enabling misandry nor misogyny? willing to have difficult conversations that don't allow others to invalidate someone's experiences because of their gender? wanting a community where all people can belong and accept one another?

no one gets every decision correct ...

Somepan

I would like to preface this complaint with the fact that i acknowledge the lack of accountability TG has for host and that i do not think any expects any kind of punishement, i'm writing this complaint more so for the sake of record keeping MSO's trimestrial abuse of his power more so than actual ...

Somepan

Good riddance.

Somepan

Misandry within Feminism is a men's issue. in fact its one of the most important ones given how much power and sway the Capital-F Feminist viewpoint on gender issues has in liberal political circles and even office culture.

At the European Central Bank the number of male mid level managers who ...

Somepan

Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 8:22 pm For clarity's sake, this is an appeal for the ban from the Polcon channel itself, correct?

Yes

Somepan

Discord account: niku.somepan

Ban/note type (Check what applies):
(x) - Discord Ban (polcon ban)

Ban/note length: Permanent
Ban/note reason: You'd have to tell me that
Time ban was placed: Either when i was discord banned or when i was unbanned and it retrograded to a polcon ban, your pick ...

Somepan

Aight,
I have a question though,
Why make me wait months/weeks to appeal my polcon ban ?
I don't want to have to go check appeals everyday and if you think i should remain banned from polcon for some time, i'd rather you tell before i have to wait rather than after i've had to wait.
Also i ...

Somepan

I'm assuming you want this appeal to end, if you got nothing to add, nothing else to argue, i invite you to lock this topic and move on.

I wish i could be let back into the discord, i doubt you'll change your mind, and having to think about this appeal is tiring, i don't want it to check daily ...

Somepan

and you immediatly went "WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO LESSEN THE EXPERIENCE OF VICTIMS OF SA AT THE HAND OF WOMEN" Which again, no one, fucking did.

Yes, they did. This is what i keep trying to get you to understand. Every time somebody brings up that stat, or defends it, or defends bringing it up ...

Somepan

Society moved from calling firefighters firemen because WRAs were worried a gender default narrative around who is a firefighter could cause girls to not get into that career by casting it as something only one gender does.

Why is it so hard for you and other people like yew to do the same in ...

Somepan

Might explain why the dutch Independent Commissioner for Child Sexual Abuse Issues has this to say:

It has to be assumed that sexual abuse inflicted by women is discovered less frequently because they are expected less likely to commit such acts.

(They list the number as 10-25% of abusers are ...

Somepan

I would like to add, as i just re read yesterday's appeal, that you seem to put a lot of emphasis on me interupting victims of SA talking,
Have you asked if my whole of text bothered them ?
Have you considered that maybe i was too ?
Have you considered that the disagreement we're having is not ...

Somepan

Discord account: niku.somepan

Ban/note type (Check what applies):
(x) - Discord Ban

Ban/note length: Permanent
Ban/note reason: defending the marginalization of victims of childhood sexual abuse with fbi crime stats
Time ban was placed: 19:43 utc+2 26/06/2024

Why are you making this ...

Somepan

Discord account: niku.somepan

Ban/note type (Check what applies):
(x) - Server Ban

Ban/note length: Permanent
Ban/note reason: defending the marginalization of victims of childhood sexual abuse with fbi crime stats
Time ban was placed: 19:43 utc+2 26/06/2024

Why are you making this ...

Somepan

https://imgur.com/a/2nKLMWt
This is a disagreement on definitions, not me being a bigot, fucking step up your game, your ban is frivolous.
What rule am i supposed to be violating right now?

Somepan

When people write a word there's a common definition
There's a common definition for incel
There's a common definition or notion of what a "Nice guy" is
If you refuse to admit that the definition most people think of when you say those words is what it is, you're not acting normally.

If you're ...

Somepan

Discord account: niku.somepan

Ban/note type (Check what applies): Mute
() - Discord Ban

Ban/note length: 1d
Ban/note reason: "continued participation in this community requires letting go of this sexist definition of "nice guys" and "inc*ls" do so or leave"
Time ban was placed: 18:15 UTC ...

Somepan

But we still need to come back to the original context. The idea you were dispelling was the idea that it is sexist to say transitioning to a women would keep somebody from committing violent acts. You posted the graph of mass shooter genders in opposition to that. Specifically wrt to hrt ...

Somepan

I've never played into the whole bias stats argument because its irrelevant, linking toxic traits to demographics is the hallmark tool of bigotry.

Yet you link all of men's problems to women, curious.

I'm not going to entertain your shit here, i explained my pov, you explained yours. If you ...

Somepan

Vekter wrote: ↑Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:55 pm Yeah, I pinged him, good luck.

Did he mute you everywhere or just from Polcon?

all of discord yes.

Somepan

Ban Details
Discord account :
Ban type : Muted on discord
Ban length : 1 day
Ban reason : "Despite making up .... memes are banned on this discord"
Time ban was placed : like 5 minutes ago

Reasons for Appealing - Delete irrelevant sections :
Here are the relevant discord messages.
https ...

Somepan

I compiled all seemingly relevant messages from the discord. I apologize if i couldn't be exhaustive, but including all messages would've taken me an absurd amount of time sorting them.

It is chronological.
https://imgur.com/a/BLbfC8e
I would like to point out that i cannot be sure if three's ...

Somepan

Is there any reason to vote for you if you don't care about MRP policies ? Apart from your playtime on LRP servers ?

Somepan

Rule 1 is not enforced nearly as much as it should.
(Rule 1. Don't be a dick) If elected headmin, I will ensure that policy is changed so that people who wordlessly tide, grief and generally ruin rounds for others will be handed out more warnings and more bans.

How do you intend to do ...

Somepan

You do realize no one is stopping new admins from just saying "can i see you handle that one before i take one" on a ticket ? And ask questions.
Also not to sound elitist but i think that throwing admins and their tools at tickets to see if they manage after being explained how to use X to check ...

Somepan

On polls, how do you intend to fight what i would call the "what there's a poll where, oh it's there i never go there or check there", because depending on how your polls are implemented you're going to have bias. People who play aren't necessarly on discord, people who are on discord don't ...

Somepan

How do you intend to crack down on metagangs ?

Somepan

- Job expectations. When you join a job, you are expected to perform at least the basic duties. Joining as an Engineer and refusing to set the Supermatter up is obviously bad, but it is something worth doing when the benefits are getting insulated gloves, a skillchip, and access. This is a good ...

Somepan

While i appreciate interacting with them on discord they have also shown during one particular incident with another discord user that they do not know when to deescalate and stop baiting in a situation in which someone in front of them was mad, leading to a violation of discord TOS by the person in ...

Somepan

Alright, the intent clearly wasn't malicious, seems like an honest mistake, just don't repeat it.
Since you caused 5 deaths before the round ended properly i'm going to reduce the ban to 5 days.

Somepan

Rubber pellets are definitely human harm. As long as something deals damage, it is human harm if used against humans.
I'm willing to concede that rubber pellets aren't "lethal" but they are clearly not on-par with non-lethal means of arrest like the stun baton or the disabler.
I'll gladly edit the ...

Somepan

I'll first start by sharing combat logs about this whole situation

[2023-04-02 22:01:06.947] ATTACK: Sr_Soez/(Paul Eeya) shot TypicalRig/(Wally Walnut) with the rubbershot pellet (NEWHP: 70) (First Floor Fore Hallway (78,133,2))
[2023-04-02 22:01:06.950] ATTACK: Sr_Soez/(Paul Eeya) shot TypicalRig ...

Somepan

Behold Stella Hoshii

and her human/command counterpart Amelia Mason.

They are both very angy, good luck with the hair.

Somepan

I understand that i got banned for frustrating you and not any other reason.
I will not make people lose their time anymore. I won't ask for answer and say i won't read them afterwards.

Somepan

By the way
Admin guideline:
"3. If the banning admin has not responded to an appeal within two days any other Game Admin may ping the administrator in regards to the appeal. If the banning admin does not respond within 24 hours, or just hands it off the admin may take over the appeal. Discord bans ...

Somepan

Also just because you were too thick to realize i was the same person doesn't mean you're logic isn't flawed, i'm not saying you are biased against me (even though i don't doubt you would be) i'm saying you are hypocritical !

Somepan

Don't need your ruling to understand you denied it already, unless you have something to admit of course ?
Also you are clearly stalling, you clearly made up your mind, i did what you asked too, you have no reason not to give an answer, especially since you have time to answer to my thoughts about ...

Somepan

I'll be back in a year to see if you calmed down little boy.

Somepan

Can an headmin close this one or smth. I'm tired of talking to a wall (of text). It won't answer. thx in advance.

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