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BeeSting12 wrote:yes but which is funner? huge tide riot or beep boop gulag.

Beep boop gulag, huge tide riots are only fun for the rioters.

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Put a stackable item in a container on your person and move to a tile containing the same type of item.
Put the item in storage in your hand and it adds the stack on the floor to itself.

Effectively this means you no longer have to pixel hunt for individual cable pieces.

So you've got cable ...

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but I'm in the minority Get out. That SJW shit ruined goon.

"I dislike people spamming racial slurs" makes me a SJW? Nice bait

I'M GOING NUCLEAR BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES CALL THE OPS SECURE THE DISK :disk: :disk: :disk: :newcop: :newcop: :newcop:

... nah it just makes you a decent person

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>Deathsquad Officer
>Using Pulse Carbine

Instantly dropped.

Pretty neat otherwise, also we're all assuming the DS Officer is a male...

Are we? Nobody's using male pronouns for her. Anonmare's right about squiddies having macho-as-hell names, though...
Headcanon: she's called something really ...

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They're just sunglasses with a medHUD. One pair of sunglasses for the CMO isn't exactly gamebreaking, they spawn in maint fairly often and the CMO gets a free medHUD implant anyway.

They're stylish flash protection for a head of staff (like the HoP, Captain, HoS and CE all get), they're not the ...

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I'm saying your view is skewed if you think realism/rp is equivalent to people not committing any crime because they aren't "the bad guys".

If anyone can do anything, why even have antags at all? Why not just let everyone do what they want, and solve it IC? If we're going for maximum realism ...

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I mean it's not a realistic aim, because our culture will always revolve around "can I kill it?". I'd like it if everyone calmed down a little, and talked more shot less, but that's not going to happen any time soon, because you'd have to change the whole triangle to keep it fair.

I'd like more ...

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Oh, it's never going to happen on /tg/, valids are too ingrained in our culture. I just think it'd be nice if it did. Were we supposed to be realistic?

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Now I'm reading my own post to see if I came across wrong. I'm not saying "don't do crime" at all. I'm saying, "don't do crime that affects other people if you don't have a good reason for it". And yes, that means security focuses more on validhunting, because they're less distracted by the tide ...

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I think what people don't realise is that, although conflict is one way to create fun, it's also not the only way. You can have fun in extended rounds where nobody self-antags and tides... but there's no conflict in sight.

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I'm saying, don't steal someone's toolbox for no raisins. It's not about the act, it's about the principle of "don't be a dick". You need that guy's toolbox real bad, and it has to be that one (e.g. syndie toolbox, and you work rnd)? Ask him for it. Does he rudely tell you to bugger off? Okay, *now ...

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Crime should be from the antagonists, whose responsibility is to do suspicious stuff to spice up the round. Not from the average greyshirt with budget insuls, a stunprod and a fetish for spacing Ian.

Consider:
1) Eliminate unprovoked IC crime [read: no spacing Ian just because the HoP won't give ...

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I think in the games current state we would lose more than we gain from antagonist security.

The pros

Distrust of Security : Security personal would no longer enjoy the near universal trust that the crew places on them.
Crew Feat of Retribution : With antagonist security, crew members would be ...

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Raiding the Armory isn't "minor" IC crime. It's gaining access to the second most secure location on the station (AI Core is first) and stealing weapons you could easily kill someone with. If you're not an antagonist, and you're not doing it because Sec's dead and there's someone shooting up Medbay ...

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confused rock wrote:yea thats kind of the reason why they piss me off so much

Am I your pet peeve?

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I can say that unless there's a way for any traitor to get access to a job specific item then the moment Security gets wind of a department specific item existing then I can assure you the entire department is going to get raided and placed under arrest.

Reminder, this.

Certain jobs can be ...

TheNightingale

"Is it valid?" is the traditional /tg/station13 question regarding absolutely anything, including mimes.

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I still maintain we should just have it like this...

1) Surgeon performs gender reassignment surgery on Patient.
2) Patient is given a menu - "Which pronouns do you want to use?" - to choose from [he, she or they].
3) If Patient is willingly undergoing the surgery (for disguise purposes, or if they ...

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It's great for disguises... but people used it to griff. Solution? Make it ungriffable.

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How about let the person being surgerised choose their new gender? If someone surgerises you and you're not into having it changed, just select the gender your character is already.

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Qbopper wrote:telling them to drink bleach

Isn't this why permabans exist?

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Second one, burden on whoever started shit. You start (non-lethal) shit with someone, they come to settle the issue, even if they use lethals first you're just supposed to roll over, die and accept your death, or run away. If you don't, and end up killing them, you get banned for killbaiting ...

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The only way to justify extending a ban as a result of the appeal is if the appeal itself breaks the rules. If something else happens to come up in the discussion that's bannable then that's a separate ban. Extending it for not agreeing with it is just shit though.
not agreeing=perfectly fine ...

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I'd assume law priority shouldn't be a thing, unless explicitly stated in the laws? Asimov Law 2 is "unless doing so conflicts with the first law", Law 3 is "... first or second laws", etc - are these redundant, then? What if you removed that clause, and then an AI was ordered to flood plasma and ...

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If the CMO fills her hypospray with neurotoxin, that means it's less convenient to use as medicine (you have to mess around with changing the chemicals); and the CE making a stunprod at roundstart is just powergamey as hell. The RD's teleport armour is decent enough, but it's not exactly something ...

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Why can I draw oxygen from a tank in my pocket but not one in my backpack.

Backpacks are sealed so that you can go into space without everything flying out as the oxygen inside the backpack is jettisoned, this unfortunately means you cannot connect a hose, as it would break the seal.

Then how ...

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Why not add an "only join if antag" option to the setup menu? If you get antag, you join; otherwise you observe. Poof, people who only play for antag can do so, and we don't have a bunch of catatonics cluttering the halls.

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I might be in the minority here, but I don't think the length of the ban matters when appealing it. If the ban is invalid, it shouldn't be given at all (it's a permanent note on someone's record), so appealing a short ban isn't about "hey can you let me play faster" so much as the principle of it.

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The tasers Security starts with:
- Can't have seclites attached
- Have no indication of mode (stun/disable; previously yellow/blue)
- Have no indication of charge (i.e. you can't tell how many shots they have left)

Is this a hidden Sec nerf?

I love the concept, and the implementation isn't bad ...

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As an AI player, please don't give AI a full MedHUD. You know why? Because if someone doesn't have their sensors on, we can ignore them being harmed.

(thatwasajoke)

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It's like if you're doing a gimmick as flucops, then one of your ops starts shooting at the Captain, so you attack them to protect the Captain. Is that valid?

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Okand37 wrote:I think we should all just hug it out and be friends.

[center]KEEP IT CLEAN[/center]

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Kor wrote:
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Weapons 'visible' includes having it on your suit storage, belt or back, I think.

TL;DR:

Green alert: everything's fine, don't walk around with a taser in your hand.
Blue alert: you *can* walk around with a taser in your hand, but you shouldn't unless you're chasing a crook.
Red alert: you *should ...

TheNightingale

We already have a rule against this. "Don't be a dick". Giving someone 10 minutes for loitering is being a dick. Stealing Sec's taser when they try and arrest you is being a dick. Shooting someone ten times for possession of a camera bug is being a dick. Smashing into a department when people work ...

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Add a rule solution, not a code one; people will always find a way around code. Just ban lowpop murderboners under Rule 1.

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I think peace kills all the Faithless.

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If you get collared by Sec and you didn't do anything, don't resist (unless there's a really good reason to believe Sec's rogue - e.g. "help someone killed Officer Redshirt and took his clothes"). That means no saxxing, no shouting about how you dindu nuffin and Sec is the worst and you'll bomb them ...

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Grazyn wrote:
D&B wrote:Just kill them, anything from lavaland any ghost role is free game.
FTFY

I don't think there is a single ghost role that isn't valid.

ERT?

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Rework restart votes so people who don't vote don't count, and having an admin online doesn't autofail it (but they can override if they want to).

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I'd like to think someone remembers my old R&D guide. If not, I'm fifteen million spiders in a rainbow flannel, and I shill the old Basil every now and then.

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Why not remove megafauna, use them for events, and make lavaland less dangerous? It's more friendly to new miners, encourages miners to actually mine instead of boss-hunt, gives admins cool monsters to use in events, and stops miners coming back to the station with OP loot only they can get.

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What if you can't damage stuff on help intent? Problem solved.

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"Average spessman punches 15.5 petajoules of energy" factoid actualy just statistical error. Average spessman punches 100 joules of energy. Spessman Georg, who lives in maint & energies over 10,000 petajoules a punch, is an outlier adn should not have been counted

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Where did you get 15.5 petajoules from? Unarmed melee punches? Dragging stuff?

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Why not both?

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Give it a stunbaton, disabler and a ziptie module.

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I placed rather highly for someone who showed up out of nowhere after not having played the game in over a year.

Yeah and Shadowdimentio somehow managed to get 6 votes, who cares.

I would be a good admin if you cucks would let me

Yeah man get rid of all the rules you frequently break and ...

TheNightingale

If you hack into somewhere and get arrested, I will confiscate your toolbelt and gloves and put them in the evidence.

This is how it should be done. Having tools isn't in itself bad, but if you use those tools to commit a crime, you're not responsible enough to have them. It's like if an atmos ...

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My Grandfather smoked his whole life. I was about 10 years old when my mother said to him, 'If you ever want to see your grandchildren graduate, you have to stop immediately.'. Tears welled up in his eyes when he realized what exactly was at stake. He gave it up immediately. Three years later he ...

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