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onleavedontatme

I'm going on leave at least for the summer, oranges and cyberboss are in charge now.

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I think thats a seatbelt not a chair

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https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/38648

onleavedontatme

MAGIC ISN'T REAL
GHOSTS AREN'T REAL
SOULS AREN'T REAL

Stopped reading here. Cultists can astral project and talk to ghosts, nevermind all the wizard shit that utilizes them or makes them visible.

stopped reading at >When you are backed up (I.E, on cent-

Agree that centcom backups is ...

onleavedontatme

If headmins want I'll finish/encourage someone else to finish this PR

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/25407

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https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/25407

Rather than gutting every ruin because you're mad about ghosts flying around someone should consider reviving this PR

onleavedontatme

Stories like this make the rest of the nonsense here worth it cheers OP

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best genre of off topic thread

onleavedontatme

I agree its weird to offer an alchoholism trait and penalize players for being alcoholics.

Also kind of torn on the rationale behind this ban because incompetent heads of staff are annoying to deal with but it pretty directly feeds into the norp silent validhunt playstyle when we ban people who ...

onleavedontatme

ADMIN LOG: KorPhaeron/(KorPhaeron) has lifted smartsniper's ban.

Be nice

onleavedontatme

If the surviving crew can't fit in pods+daniel you called the shuttle too early

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Gave a series of notes that I think show a concerning lack of rule knowledge or strange logic, don't remember any response to my pings on discord asking about them so now I gotta be an ass and post them here

Banned from Head of Security, Warden, Detective, Security Officer - As the Warden ...

onleavedontatme

I don't think it's really fair to say it's in "bad faith" to go take revenge on a player that (seemingly in this case) tried to murder you even if they are no longer actively hunting you.

I also understand that the idea of killing someone 40 minutes later over a punch would be in bad faith but it ...

onleavedontatme

If you buy a dumb shuttle every once and a while and people attack you and you kill them you won't be banned.

If you buy a dumb shuttle every round you're captain so you have an excuse to kill people you'll be asked to stop or be banned because you're just running it into the ground at that point ...

onleavedontatme

The tl;dr being you have certain liberties to fuck around and make stupid decisions as a head of staff and the crew can attempt to violently remove you from your job if you're putting people in danger.

This is all based on previous admin actions and rulings and what I see commonly enforced, the ...

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If you're a random assistant/clown buying death shuttles like the arena/daniel/hyperfractal you'll probably end up talking to an admin and being warned or banned

If you're a head of staff buying the death shuttles and people take issue with it then you better hope you're either very robust or ...

onleavedontatme

If the drones were limited like the MOMMIs it'd be easier to tell antags to suck it up and deal with them, but it is miserable when there are an endless stream of very difficult to hit mobs respawning and fucking with you.

onleavedontatme

I think you vastly underestimate the number of assets you'd need to be able to do that.

A single mob for example, Legion, has 3 sprites for directions, ~3 frame sprites for skulls that have 3 directions, and its drop (which also has minor animation). Even if you don't count the different frames ...

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Our public logs are here if you'd ever like to check any of this for yourself

https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/

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Round 88633 seems to be the round after, the ninja spawn was in 88624

https://tgstation13.org/parsed-logs/terry/data/logs/2018/05/28/round-88624/game.txt

[2018-05-28 21:21:53.706] GAME: Random Event triggering: Space Ninja (/datum/round_event/ghost_role/ninja)

Ninja was random

[2018-05-28 21:22 ...

onleavedontatme

Remove reagent requirements

onleavedontatme

made me a lovely birthday card

onleavedontatme

I can suspend my belief enough for the time travelling robot but its a bridge too far to ask me to believe I'd have unbanned PKP from the hut by 2019

onleavedontatme

I don't think an infinitely refreshing spellbook is really the same as "you finished the vault so now biotech techwebs are unlocked next round"

If I spent 20 minutes working on the station goal, only for the next round to be a 3 minute wizard round if the rewards are too large I'd be pretty ...

onleavedontatme

Also for saeg

https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/38040

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As long as admins don't turn this into "what you did wasn't bad enough for a ban or a note so I'm lowering your antag rep", it can be an interesting way to force people into less played jobs

I agree. What is the point of a line if we're going to penalize people who didn't cross it?

Are we gonna ...

onleavedontatme

Blinky Light Bulbs]

Why do you think reducing antag roll rep is a bad punishment for bad actions. I was mostly thinking of using it for cases of bad escalation, heavy greytiding, or aweful security play where they shouldn't be rewarded with extra points for it. That last one is things like ...

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I don't think an infinitely refreshing spellbook is really the same as "you finished the vault so now biotech techwebs are unlocked next round"

onleavedontatme

Nabski wrote:[but the most abuse-able

Elaborate

onleavedontatme

Arresting an officer for arresting an assistant with a stunprod is kind of weird, did he ever say why he did it?

onleavedontatme

We need to figure out how to make station goals worth doing at all before we add more.

It doesn't make sense to work on a long term goal if by the time you finish it the round will reset and erase your prize (or all the antags will be dead and you'll have nothing to use your prize on)

onleavedontatme

If someone made a traitor+ mode that spawned traitors + group of lings/blob/abductors/ninja/nightmare etc, or some combination of them with a points system I'd merge it

onleavedontatme

To be clear unless 2/3 headmins tell me "yeah prisoners murdering one another or officers would be great!" this will not be merged

onleavedontatme

I don't see a benefit in dealing with the math of earyly/basic techweb upgrades increasing techweb speed rather than just adjusting their overall time if we're not satisfied with it.

onleavedontatme

If the station declares full scale war on you then you can use full scale war methods on the station

If you're in spats with individual humans you can't nuke the entire station in response any more than you can max cap the brig because the clown slipped you

I know I'm stupid for even saying this ...

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onleavedontatme

"muh station vs 1" / "THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OP"

both of these but unironically

onleavedontatme

The behaviors enabled by this (prison breaks and prison riots) both generally result in bans and it seems backwards to add a feature then ban anyone who inevitably takes advantage of it.

onleavedontatme

Those are "real" locations with "real" people and potential impact on the story of the round.

They also recycle dead players rather than drawing from living ones.

They're not available every round either.

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It'll also help with the paranoia factor of "if you mess up to prepare for a ban" sort of sense that players get whenever they try to experiment onto a ss13 round.

No it wont, if anything it will make it worse because people will scream "why didn't you test in VR instead"

Someone is eventually ...

onleavedontatme

I guess it is too late now for it to be fair to make big demands about the nature of VR in SS13 but I'd have preferred it be something like the Matrix or Megaman Battle Network where you plug to cyberworld to accomplish things in the real one (like hacking machines or stealing the PDA logs or ...

onleavedontatme

I think even VR away missions or arenas ultimately miss the point of SS13 as well. You lose out on the narrative, creativity, "consequences" etc and just kill things.

May as well go play another videogame if you want on demand slices of content with instant respawn and loadouts.

And if they become ...

onleavedontatme

Players complaining whenever their sprites turned sideways until the well meaning admins did their best to stamp out the grief and violence, leaving the players bored and clamouring for a new area of the game in which they may freely turn each others sprites sideways

onleavedontatme

Suggestions to recreate all aspects of SS13 as a videogame within a videogame because the first layer of the game is taken so seriously is either super funny or super tragic and I'm not sure which.

onleavedontatme

Good policy discussion

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Named after your favourite doujin artist

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If you are concerned about being "kill baited" then consider calling security, using non lethal means to subdue your opponent , fleeing, or otherwise working things out (talking them down, getting your stolen items replaced, etc)

This part of the rules was meant to imply that disarming/shoving ...

onleavedontatme

I might be naive and this might be completely insane but I like to believe that taking the guard rails off escalation policy will encourage non violent solutions.

If you decide you're angry and gonna solve your problems with a toolbox and you end up floating in space with the admins telling you ...

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