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We will not be overturning this permaban. If anything had you escaped this permaban we would likely have QC permabanned you at this point regardless.

You have a little over 100 hours on our servers, have accumulated 10 server bans, 3 role bans and a total of 23 notes (of which 13 will be the bans ...

But the idea of reviewing however many years worth of permabans that we have on file is alone just a path to burnout,

So I guess not a fan of the workload, not a fan of the result, and not sold that it would help anything really anyway.

This is a pretty empty assertion when you have no ...

Nah.

Second chances are a thing, there's a saying that goes around about second chances being free, and a lot of the time they are (though not always, depends what you did I guess).

But the idea of reviewing however many years worth of permabans that we have on file is alone just a path to burnout ...

As I thought through this, I failed to find any reason not to try this, the issue more is I expect a demonstrable minimum benefit to a change in order to want to execute it.

My concerns about the effectiveness include the trainer/trainee relationship being rather in its sunset phase by trial ...

Your centcom record pretty much backs up what you said, and you have no real prior history with us so no issue unbanning you.

Should work now, let us know if you have any issues getting in.

Kubisopplay has been readminned as a Trial Admin

Kubisopplay has been readmined as a Trial Admin

Iansdoor has been demoted to Trial Admin over conduct issues raised in this complaint, and will be subject to a standard promotion review process commencing in two months.

TL;DR : We have reviewed this complaint and will be upholding it. We have decided to demote Iansdoor to Trial Admin status which will schedule them for a promotion review in approximately two and a half months.

There are some general observations that are relevant to this case, notably that the ...

We have discussed this case internally and have decided to close this complaint with no action taken.

We debated the actual ticket and the rulings attached and while we agree that generally a cultist should not be taking their antagonist status as a freedom to do whatever and should be focussing on ...

We have voted to uphold this ban.

The story presented is a little hard to follow, if it is entirely as stated then lesson learned not to copy paste (or re-type) stuff sent from your friends who find this sort of thing funny particularly when you can't figure out the context of the meme (and even ...

We've agreed to add this to the soft filter list.

Personally I question if this word ever has place in our game (though there was this one ticket...), and is a word that we can all just avoid and don't need to bring up, however, the consensus is to soft filter this which will result in admins ...

We'll be closing this, sounds like parties have reached a mutual understanding about this particular case. The drone lawset is notorious for being limiting for the AI player and most of the actions and discussion here seems to suitably resolve and explain everything, with everyone on the same page ...

We have discussed this internally and aren't interested in making any changes here.

We did toy around with the idea of adding a single extra slot to a few roles that might not be in contention for departmental resources on various maps, but in the end this doesn't make a lot of difference to ...

We discussed this internally and landed somewhere collectively between not wanting to remove antags, and also waiting to see how the latest changes to Dynamic pan out.

I think we will likely remain against removing it, but tweaking some of the variables mrmelbert's PR added could be an option down ...

Going to close this thread out as resolved. I never got as far as making changes to manuel though I built a change for it, however, dynamic is going to undergo some dramatic changes to how it works and the parameters we've been tuning here don't directly map to the new world.

As such, we're ...

Hi there,

We believe that this sort of thing already should be handled as per bombing. Given the situation is fighting a blob some situations may make more sense reasonably in context than in other situations ; in that a blob is likely to functionally trash that part of the station anyway in most ...

Pumpkin0 has retired due to inactivity.

Pumpkin0 has retired due to inactivity.

TheCrystalShip has been pinked and promoted to Trial Admin!

Turns out the above changes to threat curve widths are in the wrong direction (contrary to the documentation), so now on Terry:

Threat budget curve center to 1.0
Threat budget curve width to 4.0
Threat split curve width to 3.0

There's some graphs on the PR that help visualise where we ...

Radiation Storm was increased to require min pop 15

Turns out dynamic curve width works the opposite to how the documentation stated, as such Terry is being changed to a threat curve of width 4, center 1, with the split being raised to width 3 center 1, this will cause more consistency rather than the last change which made it less consistent.

Now ...

Llaren Hlaalo has encountered purple paint and been promoted to Game Admin!

Promoted!

Hey, no problem, glad you can reflect on the experience and that you're in a better place. I can kinda read my own tone of confusion in the comment about "I guess you're going for the ban run", I nailed it but you had no real problematic history here so the sudden diversion into "ban me please ...

Hi there. I'm afraid at this time we will be denying this appeal.

The extract of speech very much reads as crossing contexts, and taking all into account we do not believe this can be easily passed off as a purely IC "joke". We are strongly against such sentiments being expressed against any ...

We're not going to make any policy changes regarding this.

Rest of this post is just my personal takes.

As mentioned, actual problematic command can be dealt with, and I appreciate that can feel like a crap shoot as a player, but if you're genuinely good faith engaging with the sentiment you ...

I think I see what you're getting at but I think you missed the mark with the implementation idea ; legal systems typically have more safeguards and involve more people to review and give a "fresh set of eyes" on things. I don't think this applies with making/enforcing the rules but there's probably ...

We have now concluded this internally and come to the conclusion that no policy change needs to happen here.

Grief / important theft by non antags should already be able to be handled.
Non antag bombing situations should already be handled by admins (and there's a long precedent of such cases) and ...

Any change for a shake up on Manuel?

Roundstarts antagonists specifically seems to have disappered minus the 30 pop range, I don't think it's intentional.

No intentional change has been made on Manuel, this query about manuel did come my way earlier this week, just been a bit busy (inside and ...

This is a ban appeal in disguise as a complaint ; as per the "Admin Complaints Forum Rules (READ BEFORE POSTING)" you must appeal before you can complain, at least about the team ban. So I'll meet you half way:

ADMIN LOG: iain0/(Bob Stange) has created a permanent role ban from 1 roles for ...

For all servers, these events now require a minimum population of 15 to trigger:

Anomaly: Gravitational (High Intensity) (kills gravgen if it 'pops')
Gravity Generator Blackout
Grey Tide
Supermatter Surge

With the ability to modify parameters for individual events we have started with the following

These events now require a minimum population of 15 to trigger:

Anomaly: Gravitational (High Intensity) (kills gravgen if it 'pops')
Gravity Generator Blackout
Grey Tide
Supermatter Surge

We'll ...

Togopal retired on January 29th

Togopal had retired on January 29th, this was not logged previously likely due to the forums being fire at the time.

Former admin Subject217 has returned to the team as Orchidfox and has been promoted to Trial Admin!

Returning under the new name of Orchidfox, formerly Subject217

We've had a brief chat about this and at this time we're not going to make any changes to the policy here.

Declaring war on the station fundamentally changes the nature of the round into a rather escalated situation. This may play out in various ways including the crew going on the offensive (the ...

I was going to write a personal take, but Nox has nailed it all, non antag bombs with collatoral damage can/should get admin action, imminent round loss with no other resolutions in sight can mitigate some of this but it better have a good necessary IC reason, and attempts to opportunistically play ...

Sothanforax has been promoted to a Trial Admin!

Cool, see ya soon!

Quite true, it was apparently a "the small chili rollie" which I mostly read as a chilli roll throughout this situation, so I figured you blew them up with food or something, not that the delivery mechanism matters too much but I will update the note and replace "grenade" with "small chili rollie ...

I didn't close it before because I was just giving my personal take on the matter.

*puts on headmin hat*
But now I'm here to be a party pooper, this thread seems to have run its course, the general case depends entirely on context, and individual context would be a matter for appeals or complaints ...

Yeah, not sure this thread is going anywhere, there is no universal answer to such a question that contains no details.

Antag on LRP? Sure. Antag on MRP that's valid for execution - probably fine? Random non antag, good question, what did non antag do to sec to make them want to kill them?

And ...

Cheers. Accepted/Closed

Fair point on the question, though I suppose from my perspective there isn't a valid answer to that ; even knowing now about the captain thing my conclusion is still to request alternative approaches. Also difficult to know what the right questions are to discover unknown things. I guess overall the ...

If anything is missing from the above, add it

It's interesting how you're able to present a defence for your actions in appeals that varies from what you were willing to engage with in the ticket.

Lets go over the events from round start ; my attention is caught by the multiple lines of AAAAAA ...

I'll help with the copy pasting and here's your content for the relevant half of the other appeal:

As far as I know the TTS spam rule was put in place to not break immersion/roleplay, at least according to this appeal viewtopic.php?p=766321
I screamed because the captain said "Whoever screams the ...

Hi, please split this out into the two relevant appeals, one for each note, even if they're the same type of issue they're unrelated incidents and the cross talk will only complicate things.

Thanks.

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